Road + xcross test of Conti DW tires.

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Road + xcross test of Conti DW tires.

Postby twistedwankel » Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:23 pm

Mentioned in another post I decided that these 245/40/18 Continental Extreme Contact DW (dry Wet) Tires with 340 utqg are worth a trial.

At a delivered cost of $600 that makes them about $300 less than a set of Michelin SS with a coupon.

I scrubbed these in with a 3000 mile trip up the East coast and back in various weather including one full day of rain. They stick like dry even on wet leaves and pine needles in MA. A very stiff sidewall compared to the Michelins giving a rougher ride on my Koni's until I backed them off in the front to 1/2 turn firm and lowered the pressure cold to 30psi.

Today took them to a test and tune for some high speed handling tests at a Corvette event. Decent course with enough sweepers and slaloms to really give tires a workout. Andrew Wong corded his Integra tires after only one run so he co-drove my RX8 for the last 4 runs. We both agreed the tires are very predictable at speed. 10/32" tread is like new still and handling will certainly improve when worn down to 6/32" the same depth usual 200 utqg high performance tires come with.

They did not roll over beyond normal. They stabilized over all the runs on a 78F day at 36F-35R psi. They never got over 128F front and 117F rear and grip never degraded even tho' someone looped the car near the finish due to carrying too much speed and lifting in 3rd gear then went on to get fastest time of the day by .015 second on the next run. Darn borrowed cars.

Stopping distances were excellent even tho' my brakes were getting pretty noisy by my last run. We were taking twice as many runs as everyone else so this was a great opportunity to flog on the tires. 9 runs in rapid succession grip improved as did the confidence of both drivers ending up our session with virtually identical times. For comparison Dave Scott ran a 59.687 to my best 62.324 on his new Bridgestone RE11's in his awesome Z06. I can live with that as this was a true HP course. I never run an event in 3rd gear nor does Dave BUT we both did coming down the stretch. **Andrew's first run on his dead 200 Starspec Doneloops tires was 62.903 and two of them got corded. We all know just how well slicks stick at Brooksville!! I think we were both equally impressed with these "daily driver" tires at the track.

They never went away. They will only get faster over time. Now I sort of wish I'd asked Tirerack to shave them to 6/32" for $15/tire. These tires don't come with the 15k mile warrantee of the Michelins but the SS's on my Vetter are worn down to 6/32" from 10/32" in only 2600 miles mostly auto crossing or going to and from events.

As I had been told by 2 experts before I bought these tires they are probably an even better tire than the Michelins for a lot less money. Time will tell. So far they are probably better overall - especially in the wet!!

Two thumbs up :thumbwink: :thumbwink:

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Re: Road + xcross test of Conti DW tires.

Postby Loren » Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:29 pm

I've not autocrossed on them, but I've beat them up good on some mountain roads and been VERY pleased with them. And I've never driven a better tire in the wet.
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Re: Road + xcross test of Conti DW tires.

Postby aw614 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:19 pm

Thanks again for letting me drive the rx-8, I really was expecting a noisy tire fighting for grip, but I was pleased with their performance. All the posts and reviews the complaints were usually related to steering feel and soft sidewalls, but steering felt fine to me. I'll have to put them on my list for when the GTI needs tires.

The last few max performance tires i've driven at brooksville, PSS, DW, etc I've been happy with them their results, definitely a great choice of tires for those who want to autocross their daily and have good rain performance.

Oh and Doug, I drove james's s2000 and it just wants to bite you hard if you make any mistake with the back end being unpredictable, I need more seat time in one lol, but it was a good comparison driving both today.
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Re: Road + xcross test of Conti DW tires.

Postby Native » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:39 pm

Dan Mazda3 has the DWs, and I had the honor of driving them at the last event. They are a fine tire to autocross on, but not up to the level of the super-ultimate-mega-200 tw tires out there. I'm sold on them for the next set of street tires I get - was gonna jump on that last sale with the rebate, but decided not to spend the money right now.

In competition, they are quite talkative, and very predictable. They recover very nicely if you get them sliding. Didn't need ridiculous air pressures to not roll over, but not the stiffest sidewall out there, either. I give 'em a thumbs up!
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Re: Road + xcross test of Conti DW tires.

Postby twistedwankel » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:52 pm

Loren wrote:I've not autocrossed on them, but I've beat them up good on some mountain roads and been VERY pleased with them. And I've never driven a better tire in the wet.
One of the "experts" I referred to was you. That kick ass Loren guy who shares info!!

The "other guy" was an ex national champion who authors an RX8 website as a master but what does he know?

I'm older than both of you. :salute:
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Re: Road + xcross test of Conti DW tires.

Postby twistedwankel » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:59 pm

Native wrote:Dan Mazda3 has the DWs, and I had the honor of driving them at the last event. They are a fine tire to autocross on, but not up to the level of the super-ultimate-mega-200 tw tires out there. I'm sold on them for the next set of street tires I get - was gonna jump on that last sale with the rebate, but decided not to spend the money right now.

In competition, they are quite talkative, and very predictable. They recover very nicely if you get them sliding. Didn't need ridiculous air pressures to not roll over, but not the stiffest sidewall out there, either. I give 'em a thumbs up!
Dunno Steve. When I get these DW things ground down to 6/32" and co drive with Loren or you 12 times I think the jury will think otherwise :whine: When they stick they stick and when they howl they might win? If I give my best competitor $300 he will stay home. Or I can give him $100 three times and I will get the T Shirt :rolling:
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Re: Road + xcross test of Conti DW tires.

Postby Native » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:05 pm

Dan's tires were pretty new. I'd be interested to get another shot at them once they've worn in a bit.
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