FAST Classic - Dec 17 w/ FROC competition

Postby **Loren** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:26 pm

justinmcd wrote:My co driver tried to register and it's saying sold out. Is there a wait list?

These things sometimes happen when you wait until the last day of registration to get registered!

We don't do a wait list. Here's what we do instead: We over-sell regular Open events by 8% and Classic events by 4%. Years of statistics have shown us that we typically get 8-10% no-shows at a regular event, and a lot less at a Classic event. So, we just plan on that. No wait list, just raise the entry limit with the expectation that there will be no-shows. So, that's where we are. We allow 108 entries at an Open event (when we really only want 100), and we allow 50 entries at a Classic (when we really only want 48).

BUT, here's what I've done. This being the FROC event, we had 20 entries allocated to that, and 30 entries allocated to the regular Classic. Since we only had 18 FROC entries, and we're okay with that... I shifted two of those 20 to regular entries. Now there are 32 regular entires.

Bottom line, there are 2 entries open RIGHT NOW. Get 'em before they're gone.

justinmcd · Postby **justinmcd** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:45 pm

We were able to get him in, so it worked out.
We did wait until the last minute to make sure I would have a new power steering pump this week. Looks like everything is coming together though.

Justin

Postby **Native** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:34 pm

twistedwankel · Postby **twistedwankel** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:33 pm

Don't get too complacent. Ben and I had a talk a week ago and when yall are done beating each other up this Saturday Ben and I will have a personal duel of my Vette against the Fastiva at a later event. You see just because some of us are in permanent wedlock and cannot afford "consequences" we can still come back and bite you in the ass via a car co-owner.

Go Ben!!

What NO trash talk? Wow. Missed opportunity girls.

dbeng · Postby **dbeng** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:43 pm

Loren wrote: Oh, and I'm going to need a non-FASTiva car to practice in. If anyone is open for a partial co-drive that day, lemme know. Preferably an underpowered FWD car...

Loren wrote:I'll be there. Only question is how early and which vehicle I should drive. I think the truck needs some love... I'm planning on taking 3 autocross runs in it Saturday.

That sounds just like an underpowered front wheel drive

perfect preparation. (For the rest of us)

dbeng · Postby **dbeng** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:49 pm

twistedwankel wrote:
What NO trash talk? Wow. Missed opportunity girls.

Says the girl who didn't even sign up to drive.... What's the matter, scared are ya?!

Postby **Loren** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:52 pm

I get to find out first-hand just how awful Sumitomo HTR-Z II are to autocross on. I'm sure having a bunch of torque (that I can't do anything with) will be entertaining, though.

And Doug won't be there to give me tips on what tire pressure to run.

Amphoteric88 · Postby **Amphoteric88** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:39 am

Hey Loren, still need an underpowered FWD vehicle to drive? I'll gladly give you my car for a few runs. Or anyone else for that matter

Or maybe my brother's Tercel, hehehe

Postby **Loren** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:47 am

I kinda do want to beat on the truck a little... just so I can say I did. But, I might not want to take more than a couple runs in it. (unless it ends up being more fun than I expect) So, I might take you up on that!

Solar · Postby **Solar** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:00 pm

Looking forward to enjoying the day with a classic ton-o-runs and watching the FROC competition. Looks like we are in for a nice day too. Now if I can just remember where I put the keys to the Nissan.

twistedwankel · Postby **twistedwankel** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:40 pm

dbeng wrote:
twistedwankel wrote:
What NO trash talk? Wow. Missed opportunity girls.
Says the girl who didn't even sign up to drive.... What's the matter, scared are ya?!

Yes I'm so deeply concerned I bought us a New Year's Cruise for the first week of 2017 6 months ago so I'll miss that one too.

Postby **Loren** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:03 pm

Have a fun trip, Doug! Hope we get to see you again mid-January.

twistedwankel · Postby **twistedwankel** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:18 pm

Loren wrote:Have a fun trip, Doug! Hope we get to see you again mid-January.

I'll be rarin' to go by then. BTW your wheels and tires are identical to wife's car. She let me race it once or twice @ Airport. 34F/30R worked pretty well for starters. Fronts can run up to 38-40 hot no biggie no roll over no chunking. They launch hard with an automatic. You will definitely need some weight in the rear, full tank, spare? Aqua Fiesta?

Postby **Loren** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:24 pm

Cool. I've been running them 36-38ish on the street. I guess I'll just leave them alone. Odds are really good that I'd have ended up doing that, anyway. I have to baby the launch (too much torque), and the 2nd gear shift (not enough synchro). Once I'm rolling in 2nd... that's where all the fun starts. I think it will actually handle okay up to the point that understeer sets in. Biggest question is just how bad the steering ratio will be in a slalom!

dbeng · Postby **dbeng** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:38 pm

Do you have enough torque to start in 2nd? Time lost slightly bogging down of the line would be offset by eliminating a shift. Will save you worrying about doing a burnout off the line.

Postby **Loren** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:43 pm

Before I changed the diff ratio (from 3.73 to 3.08), I could have started in 2nd and had to shift to 3rd. Now 2nd gear has long legs... but 2nd gear starts aren't gonna happen without a lot of practice. It REALLY bogs. But, I can wring out 1st, and as long as I don't rush the 2nd gear shift, it's fine. Will I be able to do that in the heat of battle? Who knows?

twistedwankel · Postby **twistedwankel** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:11 pm

dbeng wrote:Do you have enough torque to start in 2nd? Time lost slightly bogging down of the line would be offset by eliminating a shift. Will save you worrying about doing a burnout off the line.

He can launch the frickin' NO TORQUE FASTIVA and beat me in a C5. I think he can deal with it

Your first comment when driving the Ford will be: "Damn...it spun a tire."

dbeng · Postby **dbeng** » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:09 pm

"a tire"

ImpostorDan · Postby **ImpostorDan** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:48 pm

twistedwankel wrote:
dbeng wrote:Do you have enough torque to start in 2nd? Time lost slightly bogging down of the line would be offset by eliminating a shift. Will save you worrying about doing a burnout off the line.
He can launch the frickin' NO TORQUE FASTIVA and beat me in a C5.

We all beat you in a C5, it's clearly the mazda that's really FAST.

BigBlue · Postby **BigBlue** » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:16 pm

Loren wrote:I get to find out first-hand just how awful Sumitomo HTR-Z II are to autocross on. I'm sure having a bunch of torque (that I can't do anything with) will be entertaining, though.

And Doug won't be there to give me tips on what tire pressure to run.

Let me just say, they are as bad as you think they are. Trust me.

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