April 7th Wiggly bits is in the Sack

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Postby twistedwankel » Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:41 pm

Doncha just want to take him on? He doesn't even require a $10 bill under his wiper. Just pat him on the ass. :grin:
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Postby Loren » Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:19 pm

Last time I shared a ride with Casey, I lost. I'll pass on that one. :lol:
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Postby twistedwankel » Sun Apr 08, 2018 12:05 am

Open season on Loren.
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Postby markzeronine » Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:43 am

As of my last two events I've gone back to my old shameful ways of blasting way too many cones... luckily this event I just barely clipped them whereas the last classic I was completely murdering them. On the right track I suppose lol. I did enjoy the course and the whole day in general, thank you all
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Postby Loren » Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:53 am

http://drivefast.org/results/championship-points/

Season Points have been updated. WOW there's some close competition still!
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Postby Evil MS3 » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:04 pm

This course was super fun. The "wiggly bit" was hilarious fun. I was surprised at how much speed I could carry through there and still side step through those cones.

I did find myself having some trouble finding the right line through the wide offset turns on the bit right after you exit the turn around. Carried too much speed and understeered then too little and was just slow.

Thankfully I didn't cone my last 2 runs and was able to put down an ok time of 44.1.

Getting more and more comfortable with the car again after the total suspension overhaul but gonna take a bit to get as fast I know it's capable of again.
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Postby CaptainSquirts » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:50 pm

ctsteege wrote: Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:31 pm
Loren wrote:but the end is funny
That's what we all say too!! "UNBELIEVABLE" that car can do that!!!
I'm gonna guess it's because he got the same time of 44.415 3 times :lol:
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Postby nathanwilliams617 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:19 am

Yup, Saturday was great. Great weather, cool peeps and 6 runs! I had a blast, till I took out the timing light on my last run, that depressed me a bit..smh.

Anyway here's my fastest and cleanest 45.696
https://youtu.be/7-EG_qVA0k0

Also including the video of the timing light punt!
https://youtu.be/NTZe1lrIqbQ

Btw, I'm not cool with 3rd place in M2, but Matt and Taylor are litterally beating me into submission. I've devised a plan, and typically these plans get executed between seasons, but man, these M2 guys have just moved up the execution date. It's all out war now...

Thanks for a great time folks!
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Postby ctsteege » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:31 am

CaptainSquirts wrote:
ctsteege wrote: Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:31 pm
Loren wrote:but the end is funny
That's what we all say too!! "UNBELIEVABLE" that car can do that!!!
I'm gonna guess it's because he got the same time of 44.415 3 times :lol:
I know, I'm just being a smartass...
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Postby Loren » Mon Apr 09, 2018 12:14 pm

Nate, aside from creaming the timer... your tires seem to be protesting too much for the amount of speed you're carrying. I can't tell if that's due to the tire, the alignment, or driver inputs. Inputs don't seem overly harsh, so I'm guessing tires and/or alignment? Are you going to share your upgrade plans with us, or is that all super-secret stuff?
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Postby Evil MS3 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 12:32 pm

nathanwilliams617 wrote:Also including the video of the timing light punt!
The facepalm you gave yourself after that says it all, that was tough, no one wants to be the one to do that.

Looking forward to what you're bringing at us. :grin:
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Postby nathanwilliams617 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:58 pm

Loren wrote:Nate, aside from creaming the timer... your tires seem to be protesting too much for the amount of speed you're carrying. I can't tell if that's due to the tire, the alignment, or driver inputs. Inputs don't seem overly harsh, so I'm guessing tires and/or alignment? Are you going to share your upgrade plans with us, or is that all super-secret stuff?
Yeah, so the tires maybe on the way out. They were not top shelf to begin with:
Federal RSRs installed 04/17, has 74 runs.
The alignment I think is fine:
Fronts are right at -3 camber, 0ish toe, and 1.7ish caster.
The rear is what it is, solid axel: -0.1 degrees camber, 0ish toe.
The driver and his inputs- how dare you even question that. Lol

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Lastly a corner ballance and then drive it for another 8 months or so unmolested.


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Postby twistedwankel » Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:02 pm

blacksheep-1 wrote:FWIW..the magic number in a foxbody strut car is 4 degrees,camber, 4 degrees caster. less than 4 degrees caster and the spindle loses camber during the turn, more than 4 degrees and you get camber gain, which I'm assuming you want. This is at 20 degrees from straight ahead.
I'm not sure how much that applies to your car, but since they are both strut cars, I would think at some point, they would exhibit similar characteristics
Nate you saw this in the Mirage thread, right? Good stuff. Rob actually breeds racing Mustangs I think.
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Postby nathanwilliams617 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:33 pm

No I did not, I get lost in the Mirage thread lol
Thanks for sharing!
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Postby twistedwankel » Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:30 pm

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His latest to follow on FAST!! The old White Stang build was priceless too.
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Postby Loren » Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:35 pm

nathanwilliams617 wrote:Federal RSRs installed 04/17, has 74 runs.
I haven't been intimate with the RSR, maybe it's just a loud tire?

Damn, only 74 runs in a year? You need to get out more!

The alignment I think is fine:
Fronts are right at -3 camber, 0ish toe, and 1.7ish caster.
More caster is always good if you can get it. But, that's a nice camber number for a dual-purpose car.
The driver and his inputs- how dare you even question that. Lol
I don't know what I was thinking. :dunno:
Upgrades: The car is pretty nose heavy (shocker) 450lbs extra to be exact. I'm looking into static ballancing the car, and continuing the rear suspension upgrade with a torque arm install. Yup still running stock upper control arms and bushings, and quad shocks from 1988. These go away with the torque arm install.
Lastly a corner ballance and then drive it for another 8 months or so unmolested.
Part of me wants to understand what all that means. The rest of me doesn't care. :)

I hope you're consulting with Drew and Rob.
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Postby twistedwankel » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:27 pm

ctsteege wrote:
Loren wrote:but the end is funny
That's what we all say too!! "UNBELIEVABLE" that car can do that!!!
It's not the "car". Buy a co-drive.
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Postby Loren » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:49 pm

True, but the Mirage ain't supposed to do that.
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Postby 280z-hab » Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:10 pm

This was a super fun course, great design. I did some casual tire shopping in the grid...thank you for yall's feedback. As always, it was good to see folks and thank you to my early tech partner...we worked like a Swiss timepiece. I jinxed myself on the last run by telling Frank I hadnt spun the Z yet. Here is a video of one of my runs, it is similar to other videos but longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BglWy1HMdIw
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Postby AScoda » Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:25 pm

Torque arm turns crappy Ford 4 link rear into 3 link for better rear suspension articulation. Panhard bar keeps it centered.
It lets the booty twerk.

You know you are going to need more rear spring, right?
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