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Re: Dec 2nd Event
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:59 pm
by twistedwankel
Loren wrote:It's a shame about that whole poor efficiency and crappy reliability thing, Doug.

STI = 24mpg hwy
RX8 = 24 mpy hwy
Top speed about on par. Fun factor is ON or OFF road specific. Point is I have never considered fuel economy when purchasing my performance vehicle:)
Worst thing you can do to a Wankel is start it, move it in the driveway, shut it off, try to restart it. They learned that when unloading them off the ship from Hiroshima in 2003.
Most RX-8's sold were automatics, to women with kids, with 30 pages of child seat harnesses, start and stop driving carboned up requiring disassembly to get carbon out of the seals. I took advantage of their extended 8 yr/ 80,000 mile Factory full replacement warrantee on my new engined car with 55k on the chassis.
Still the best deal going.
Mazda forgot that the RX7's were sports/performance cars to be driven hard NOT daily drivers. I NEVER had a summer only driven RX7 first gen fail me EVER since 1985. I owned a dozen of them I put back on the road due to a failed hose. Mechanics did a traditional compression test and told folks the engine was toast....hahahaha. I made a bunch of money off those cars for the sake of a $5 hose.
The 3 rotor Rotary was Banned from the 24hrs of Lemans after they killed everyone due to its bulletproof reliability at the extremes. Look who is winning in the Daytona 24 in their class you will see a bevy of RX8's mostly DNF due to wrecks never mechanicals.
Hey I owned a Miata once but got rid of it because no one could see it and those darn pickups were gonna kill me. 
Re: Dec 2nd Event
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:35 pm
by Jeremy
twistedwankel wrote:
RX8, Rotary, etc

Re: Dec 2nd Event
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:30 pm
by twistedwankel
Jeremy wrote:twistedwankel wrote:
RX8, Rotary, etc

Is that a pix from your family reunion?

Re: Dec 2nd Event
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:47 pm
by twistedwankel
A pix of the long line of mourners for the MX-5 now that Mazda has made partnership with FIAT (fix it again tony) on the next Miata now that the Rotary is dead forever other than in a future Hybrid or an airplane.
Then notice the nice tail associated with the long dead RX-8.
Re: Dec 2nd Event
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:49 pm
by Solar
twistedwankel wrote:
Hey I owned a Miata once but got rid of it because no one could see it and those darn pickups were gonna kill me. 
Ain't that the truth, anytime I'm passing a truck my fingers are on the horn buttons.

Re: Dec 2nd Event
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:36 pm
by Jamie
Solar wrote:twistedwankel wrote:
Hey I owned a Miata once but got rid of it because no one could see it and those darn pickups were gonna kill me. 
Ain't that the truth, anytime I'm passing a truck my fingers are on the horn buttons.

Lightweights...I dice with truck traffic every morning before sunrise. In a black Miata. And live to see the sun come up.

Re: Dec 2nd Event
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:14 pm
by twistedwankel
Jamie wrote:Lightweights...I dice with truck traffic every morning before sunrise. In a black Miata. And live to see the sun come up.

A Miata will fit under a semi but not a pickup or SUV. So you actually tried using headlights? Novel thought. GOOD idea.
I'm still more visible on an '81 bike than I was in a dark green Miata with the top down on a windy road. (And safer because it has crazy throttle response and major lean.)
Did I mention dual front disks on one wheel? Out throttle AND out stop....hmmmm. Better chance of survival on the bike.
Re: Dec 2nd Event
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:33 am
by Jeremy
Videos
Mine 41.6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO4lCBgMl3o
Charles 42.5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiDmfbctxiY
I drove like crap again.
and the car has a blown right front strut, alignment is out of wack, ride height is too high, car is on low boost setting, brake balance is messed up, suspension balance is messed up.
Should be about 2 seconds faster when we fix this stuff.

Re: Dec 2nd Event
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:44 am
by Solar
Jeremy wrote:the car has a blown right front strut
check
Jeremy wrote:alignment is out of wack
check
Jeremy wrote:ride height is too high,
double check
Jeremy wrote:brake balance is messed up
check
Jeremy wrote: suspension balance is messed up.
check
Jeremy wrote:Should be about 2 seconds faster when we fix this stuff.

So what's then problem ? Sounds like a typical 240sx to me.

Re: Dec 2nd Event
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:01 pm
by Rosko
Jeremy wrote: and the car has a blown right front strut, alignment is out of wack, ride height is too high, car is on low boost setting, brake balance is messed up, suspension balance is messed up. Should be about 2 seconds faster when we fix this stuff.

It looks like your finger got stuck on that excuse creator that Scott Wheeler posted.
Re: Dec 2nd Event
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:07 pm
by Loren
I guess he's trying to compare his times to Elliot, or something.
One thing I realized watching Jeremy's video: John's Miata is going to be a lot faster with the new springs. It's amazing how tentative I have to be with steering inputs. I've gotten so used to it that I don't think about it much, but things that Jeremy just drove through briskly (like the two turns after the slalom) I was really struggling to get through without scrubbing speed.
"Should be about 2 seconds faster when we fix this stuff."
Re: Dec 2nd Event
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:47 pm
by snookwheel
That looks like it was a very fun course, wish we could have been there!
Dec 2nd Event
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:06 pm
by Charles
Even better, most of the problems can be fixed for free aside from the strut. Ran across old paperwork, the car hasn't been aligned in almost 3 years.
Re: Dec 2nd Event
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:11 pm
by warneej
Where are all the pictures guys? I saw quite a few people taking them!