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Big thanks to all of you who make these events possible each month.
I saw some seriously good driving yesterday (not me )!

Here's Loren's run in the ocho:
http://youtu.be/vmoM7uVuJlw
"Torque!"

That's how I should've been exiting the turnaround! Doh!

That was fun. I don't remember what I ran in your car, Ricky. Were you able to match it?

Loren wrote:

Solar wrote:Philip that was a very smooth looking run.

That's no small task. Remember when you and I were driving your 240 on blown stock shocks? That's exactly where he is with that Miata!

Watch him, he's mastered the art of transferring the weight before committing to a turn-in. It's a beautiful thing.

Great to hear! glad I'm improving

Hi everyone! SO here's my contribution--my best clean run at 41.679. Im finding the GoPro vids very instructional. Looking at others vids and at mine, I found 2 systematic errors in my run depicted below. Can you name them (or point out others)?

http://youtu.be/aS5-iVBZC8U

I look forward to your insight!

Loren wrote:That was fun. I don't remember what I ran in your car, Ricky. Were you able to match it?

You got the 43.527+1.
Closest I got to that was a 43.513+2. I only had one clean run all day (I don't count my practice run unless it's my fastest ) and that was a 44.472.


Hey, my first sticker! And if anybody points out that there were only 3 competitors in M1, well then, I can't hear you!

Very fun course!

Thanks again Steve for letting me hop in your car to take my runs due to the most expensive screw ever... I say that because driving a Miata with modded suspension has me hooked. I just didn't have the pair needed to brake properly going into the turn around, as I was paranoid about flat spotting your tires, and botched my last two runs. In the first few runs I kept tapping the brakes intermittently in places I knew I didn't need to brake.

Oh well I'm thinking suspension in the next 6 months.

You have the worst luck with tires, Matt!

Imua wrote:Hi everyone! SO here's my contribution--my best clean run at 41.679. Im finding the GoPro vids very instructional. Looking at others vids and at mine, I found 2 systematic errors in my run depicted below. Can you name them (or point out others)?

I'm not sure what you're seeing. In general, I think you're turning harder than you need to in some places. Sort of pinching off a turn that you could squeak through with a lot less steering input.

You didn't give yourself a good setup to the right-hander after the straight coming out of the Chicago box (that wasn't really a box... but on the original course, it was). You could have carried more speed through that, jabbed the brakes HARD before the left (not IN the left... some people tried that, doesn't work!), and probably actually accelerated a bit out of the left and toward the entry of the turn-around.

You took the turn-around WAY too slowly. Listen. Do you hear tires? Too slow. Exit speed of the turn-around was entry speed into a wide-open accelerating slalom. Pretty important.

So, while 41.6 is nothing to sneeze at. (it's actually pretty darned good!) You could have easily been in the low-mid 40's.

Think "exit speed" and "get on the gas as early as possible". And remember, having a FWD car that can oversteer is a GOOD thing... just use your right foot to modulate weight transfer and put the weight on the back when you need to stop rotation. (learning to left-foot brake is very helpful for FWD)

I thought the r32 was all wheel drive for some reason...

You know, it might be. I always think of the VW's as being FWD.

Still, AWD generally behaves a lot like FWD.

After I sent that and hopped in the shower I started thinking that it might not have been an R32, as I dunno if VW makes them anymore. It had an R badge on the rear but it could just be some new fancy GTI package.

Huh. Look at ol' Denny with his stealthy little monster!

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/201 ... ive-review

I had no idea.

Lava Speed 05 wrote:After I sent that and hopped in the shower I started thinking that it might not have been an R32, as I dunno if VW makes them anymore. It had an R badge on the rear but it could just be some new fancy GTI package.

It's a Golf R. 4wd. New "version" of the R32. 2.0T, instead of VR6.

edit: oops, just noticed Loren's C-D link above...nevermind.

Lava Speed 05 wrote: Thanks again Steve for letting me hop in your car to take my runs due to the most expensive screw ever... I say that because driving a Miata with modded suspension has me hooked. I just didn't have the pair needed to brake properly going into the turn around, as I was paranoid about flat spotting your tires, and botched my last two runs. In the first few runs I kept tapping the brakes intermittently in places I knew I didn't need to brake.

Oh well I'm thinking suspension in the next 6 months.

Yer welcome! Yah, the suspension can make a big difference, as long as it's set up right. Glad you liked it!

Lava Speed 05 wrote:I just didn't have the pair needed to brake properly going into the turn around....

That's OK -- I found that Steve's brakes need about 10 runs to warm up enough to bite!

Professional_Slacker wrote:... right now I'm fighting with the car and I need to stop doing that.

You mean you aren't supposed to wrestle the car to where you want it, forcing it to obey like breaking a wild stallion?

Now somebody tells me that.

Wrestling implies that the car actually has a say in the matter, Ron. I think what you do is more akin to "beating into submission".

I came to a stunning realization today. I have the exact same car set up the exact same way as mine in Gran Turismo 6... and I can replicate the spin-outs I've been having 10 out of 10 times under similar conditions on any track in the game.

it's interesting because I also have a fully modded version that has none of the same handling quirks. so do the software engineers at polyphony research cars so much that they can actually calculate the effects a mod will have and replicate it via game physics? if it's true, could really make for an interesting tuning/trouble shooting tool. I need to investigate this further. but it's intriguing to say the least.

Game simulators won't exactly match reality, but serious racing games do have realistic physics.