Seems to me, Joe probably has a pretty good idea about what's going on!garage west wrote:Special thanks to Joe Brannon for wringing out my car today and offering the suggestion I remove my rear sway bar. Everybody else that has driven my car has commended it for being very nice, but Joe called it out for snapping a little aggressively and he kinda walked away with my T-shirt a couple times, so I'm inclined to take his advice. I'm a little tentative as a driver as it is, so a less loose car may well make the difference. Hang in there, kiddos!
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Interesting - do you have a stock bar up front?garage west wrote:Special thanks to Joe Brannon for wringing out my car today and offering the suggestion I remove my rear sway bar
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Thanks for not beating me in my own car.Native wrote:Oh for Pete's sake, where are my manners?
Loren, thank you very much for taking over my starter position, in the rain, so that I could get in a few runs in your car!

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It was so nice to get in the driver seat again. Really lucked out with the rain, think Karma owed me one from driving the only wet heat last time this happened (Drew got it both times it seems). Finally convinced my wife to come out. She rode once, and that was enough it seems. Baby steps.
Working timing in the am with Joe B was highly educational, thanks Joe
Working timing in the am with Joe B was highly educational, thanks Joe

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I'll have you know I had to hack the forum database to find this image... but, it was worth it.twistedwankel wrote:Congrats to morning session who played "Dancing in the Rain" all morning for us.
Now, I present to you, from July 12, 2009:
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Omg lol
I actually remember that.
Fab photochop!

I actually remember that.
Fab photochop!
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Oh....it was "singin'" oops. That's a great poster!! Good one Loren.
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twistedwankel wrote:Oh....it was "singin'" oops. That's a great poster!! Good one Loren.

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Sorry, "Gerry Hernandez", the guy who beat you in M1.garage west wrote:Gary Hernandes? Never heard of him.

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Pretty sure I didn't beat him. Not even close!twistedwankel wrote:Sorry, "Gerry Hernandez", the guy who beat you in M1.garage west wrote:Gary Hernandes? Never heard of him.I was having one of my "spells".
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Here's my run 40.691 run, easily 39 if I drove right. The rain gods always kind to us morning folks 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNBrw-Wwsaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNBrw-Wwsaw
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I wonder if taking that turn-around tight in my car, and accepting the dog-slow 1st gear acceleration out of it would have been faster? I never tried it. I just took it super-wide and tried to maintain momentum in 2nd.
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I guess those "new" coils worked well?CaptainSquirts wrote:Here's my run 40.691 run, easily 39 if I drove right.
My first run was tight in 2nd gear - sluggish, not bad.Loren wrote:I wonder if taking that turn-around tight in my car, and accepting the dog-slow 1st gear acceleration out of it would have been faster?
Second run was tight, with a downshift to first - total waste of time, first ran out in the middle of the turnaround exit chute (and that car does not recover well from a hit to the rev-limiter).
Third run was wide (not super-wide) in second gear. Seat o' the pants says that was the faster way...but may not have been terribly different than my first run.
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They were beautiful, night and day difference. Only downside is relearning the feel and setup of the car again. Wonder what I would've really placed in my class if it didn't rain in the afternoon.Native wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:24 pmI guess those "new" coils worked well?CaptainSquirts wrote:Here's my run 40.691 run, easily 39 if I drove right.
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The Mirage is truly a momentum car, and almost all of the return side was an acceleration zone. I think maximum momentum on the exit of hte turn-around was the right answer... for that car.Native wrote:My first run was tight in 2nd gear - sluggish, not bad.Loren wrote:I wonder if taking that turn-around tight in my car, and accepting the dog-slow 1st gear acceleration out of it would have been faster?
Second run was tight, with a downshift to first - total waste of time, first ran out in the middle of the turnaround exit chute (and that car does not recover well from a hit to the rev-limiter).
Third run was wide (not super-wide) in second gear. Seat o' the pants says that was the faster way...but may not have been terribly different than my first run.
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Push Harder - Drive as close to the limit of your tires as possible.
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If it's any help you beat me by 11 seconds and David in RS wet only beat me by 3.5 sec. We didn't hear one tire squeal all afternoon. Not one. And no one went agriculture either like I heard someone did in the dryCaptainSquirts wrote: Wonder what I would've really placed in my class if it didn't rain in the afternoon.

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Ken Marion. In Gerry's car...must be something about gray cars.twistedwankel wrote:And no one went agriculture either like I heard someone did in the dry
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Geesus. I thought I'd be racing against a "trailer queen" that drives only on and off the trailer and he puts the "shit box" M1 trick 2016 Mazda car in the weeds. Damn. Worst thing is I saw Gerry help him put his Porsche back on the trailer. Dammit. I must move in the wrong circles? DOH. He let Gerry beat him. Kind of like me letting "Farm Truck" drive my RX-8 at Dunellon. Won't happen again.
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If you had a gray Miata and a co driver you had a 100% chance your co-driver would go agricultural.Jamie wrote:Ken Marion. In Gerry's car...must be something about gray cars.twistedwankel wrote:And no one went agriculture either like I heard someone did in the dry
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twistedwankel wrote: Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:40 pmIf it's any help you beat me by 11 seconds and David in RS wet only beat me by 3.5 sec.CaptainSquirts wrote: Wonder what I would've really placed in my class if it didn't rain in the afternoon.

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