FAST Open Autocross - Apr 7 @ Brooksville

CaptainSquirts · Postby **CaptainSquirts** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:23 am

Good lord, 1 concrete block spaced slalom cones at the end. How the heck can some of us get our fat 4 doors to fit in between those!

Evil MS3 · Postby **Evil MS3** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:55 am

CaptainSquirts wrote:Good lord, 1 concrete block spaced slalom cones at the end. How the heck can some of us get our fat 4 doors to fit in between those!

We're going to have to think thin!!

CaptainSquirts · Postby **CaptainSquirts** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:19 am

Evil MS3 wrote:
CaptainSquirts wrote:Good lord, 1 concrete block spaced slalom cones at the end. How the heck can some of us get our fat 4 doors to fit in between those!
We're going to have to think thin!!

I see something like this happening...

Postby **Loren** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:00 am

Look closer. Those cones are not inline. There will be about almost a 5' path between them. Not wide enough that anybody can "straight-line" it, but wide enough that it's just a "wiggle". We've done it before, it's actually a really fun element.

Postby **Loren** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:06 am

Search the forum for "fishbone". We usually set the cones at an angle, and it's picked up that name. We've done it at least 3-4 times.

ImpostorDan · Postby **ImpostorDan** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:54 am

Loren wrote:Search the forum for "fishbone". We usually set the cones at an angle, and it's picked up that name. We've done it at least 3-4 times.

Looks like I'm going to be working on my "No Lift" badge in this section.

CaptainSquirts · Postby **CaptainSquirts** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:58 pm

ImpostorDan wrote:
Loren wrote:Search the forum for "fishbone". We usually set the cones at an angle, and it's picked up that name. We've done it at least 3-4 times.
Looks like I'm going to be working on my "No Lift" badge in this section.

Hmmmmm I remember doing a couple of those in the past and I really sucked at them. I'm assuming the main goal is to steadily increase throttle while wiggling through everything. Increase throttle the deeper you get into it since it's spacing out more and then gunning it all the way as long as you barley make it past the last slalom cone to the finish?

jbrannon7 · Postby **jbrannon7** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:18 pm

CaptainSquirts wrote:
ImpostorDan wrote:
Loren wrote:Search the forum for "fishbone". We usually set the cones at an angle, and it's picked up that name. We've done it at least 3-4 times.
Looks like I'm going to be working on my "No Lift" badge in this section.
Hmmmmm I remember doing a couple of those in the past and I really sucked at them. I'm assuming the main goal is to steadily increase throttle while wiggling through everything. Increase throttle the deeper you get into it since it's spacing out more and then gunning it all the way as long as you barley make it past the last slalom cone to the finish?

If you look closely, as the spacing gets longer it gets tighter horizontally, ending with the last cone wall being offset to the hard side. Of course each cone on the map is about 4 feet wide, so we really won't know until we walk the course. A double cone on one side of the line appears to take up half the square, but in reality it may only consume 2 feet of space.

CaptainSquirts · Postby **CaptainSquirts** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:23 pm

jbrannon7 wrote:
CaptainSquirts wrote:
ImpostorDan wrote:
Loren wrote:Search the forum for "fishbone". We usually set the cones at an angle, and it's picked up that name. We've done it at least 3-4 times.
Looks like I'm going to be working on my "No Lift" badge in this section.
Hmmmmm I remember doing a couple of those in the past and I really sucked at them. I'm assuming the main goal is to steadily increase throttle while wiggling through everything. Increase throttle the deeper you get into it since it's spacing out more and then gunning it all the way as long as you barley make it past the last slalom cone to the finish?
If you look closely, as the spacing gets longer it gets tighter horizontally, ending with the last cone wall being offset to the hard side. Of course each cone on the map is about 4 feet wide, so we really won't know until we walk the course. A double cone on one side of the line appears to take up half the square, but in reality it may only consume 2 feet of space.

Oh damn I didn't catch that, good call.

jbrannon7 · Postby **jbrannon7** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:23 pm

CaptainSquirts wrote:
jbrannon7 wrote:
CaptainSquirts wrote:
ImpostorDan wrote:
Loren wrote:Search the forum for "fishbone". We usually set the cones at an angle, and it's picked up that name. We've done it at least 3-4 times.
Looks like I'm going to be working on my "No Lift" badge in this section.
Hmmmmm I remember doing a couple of those in the past and I really sucked at them. I'm assuming the main goal is to steadily increase throttle while wiggling through everything. Increase throttle the deeper you get into it since it's spacing out more and then gunning it all the way as long as you barley make it past the last slalom cone to the finish?
If you look closely, as the spacing gets longer it gets tighter horizontally, ending with the last cone wall being offset to the hard side.
Oh damn I didn't catch that, good call.

Edited during your reply.

JasonS · Postby **JasonS** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:32 pm

Sneaky Sneaky

Postby **Loren** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:17 pm

When you get to that level of detail, the map just can't do it. Yes, the "fishbone" will be very easy offset, right about 5 feet. You can kinda sorta see that on the map. Yes, the spacing will increase from about 30 to 50 feet as it goes, which should make it easier to accelerate through. Yes, the offset will tighten up as the spacing goes past 50'. How much? Eh... we'll see.

You guys know that we look at these things when we set them up... and then we drive the course to make sure it works as-intended. And if we need to tweak it to make it work, we do!

What I'm saying is... don't overthink the map. Do walk the course.

CaptainSquirts · Postby **CaptainSquirts** » Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:38 pm

Loren wrote:You guys know that we look at these things when we set them up... and then we drive the course to make sure it works as-intended. And if we need to tweak it to make it work, we do!

What I'm saying is... don't overthink the map. Do walk the course.

Every time I see the course the first time, I always say wow, there is a lot less spacing between the elements. Then when I walk it I think, I am going to do this, this and this. Then when I drive the course, I don't do this, this and this

JasonS · Postby **JasonS** » Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:38 pm

Every time I see the course the first time, I always say wow, there is a lot less spacing between the elements. Then when I walk it I think, I am going to do this, this and this. Then when I drive the course, I don't do this, this and this

Every. Single. Time.

Postby **Loren** » Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:31 pm

Hey! Don't get so wrapped up in Easter and Spring Break and all that you forget to register for this event. Registration closes Monday.

Jamie · Postby **Jamie** » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:27 am

The large number of Miatas spinning off into the dirt at recent events are posing a safety problem. Starting with this next event, all NA, NB1, and NC Miatas must fit a lirpa loof retaining strap to the rear suspension to control oversteer. Tech inspection will check for compliance.

Postby **Loren** » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:31 am

Accept no substitutes, always demand Lirpa Loof quality.

AScoda · Postby **AScoda** » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:36 pm

twistedwankel wrote:I don't think Drew can handle that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wrMvZhYi08

AScoda · Postby **AScoda** » Sun Apr 01, 2018 5:37 pm

Lirpa Loof, best Loof!

twistedwankel · Postby **twistedwankel** » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:23 pm

AScoda wrote:
twistedwankel wrote:I don't think Drew can handle that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wrMvZhYi08

Some of us don't need any luck. Whether I run alone or with a co-driver and lose I still end up with only 2 pts which will be another drop season end. Maybe next season the sole competitor will be granted 3 or 4 pts for 1st? Getting almost no points sort of defeats the advantage of pulling up the rear for those who actually show up?

Drew you have never beaten me in my vette on 100 fat tires

AND when I beat you I get 4pts

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