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Aug 10 FAST Classic @ Venice Airport

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:55 pm
by Loren
Fixed. You may need to force reload the page or the image to get the new version.

The correct version uses a big gate that you'll drive through twice (once entering the loop, once exiting it) and has only one green apex cone in the loop.

Aug 10 FAST Classic @ Venice Airport

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:15 pm
by twistedwankel
Sorry we can't make hot August events that are far away in the morning. So what's with MO (SS, AS) on street tires? Can I buy a shifter cart and run MO now on 140 lawn mower tires? I'll wear closed toed shoes and so will my guest. FTD is a piece of cake now it seems!!

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Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:15 pm
by AScoda
FAST classing overview wrote:You’ll find no information for classing karts as we do not allow karts.

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Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:05 am
by Rawkkrawler
twistedwankel wrote:Sorry we can't make hot August events that are far away in the morning. So what's with MO (SS, AS) on street tires? Can I buy a shifter cart and run MO now on 140 lawn mower tires? I'll wear closed toed shoes and so will my guest. FTD is a piece of cake now it seems!![/

I’m starting to like Phillip’s idea in creating a separate class for the fast guys and girls to duke it out, M0 seems to be the dumping ground for those not interested in competing against the ones in their actual class. Honestly, I don’t care, most of you will continue to be faster than me so come on over. With our events extending to 2 hours one way, I’m struggling to make the points events myself. But I openly suggest staying in your actual class and fighting it out with your peers. If you’re chasing the sticker for bragging rights, I question what you’re bragging about.

Just my 2 cents.

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Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:01 am
by CaptainSquirts
Rawkkrawler wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:05 am I’m starting to like Phillip’s idea in creating a separate class for the fast guys and girls to duke it out, M0 seems to be the dumping ground for those not interested in competing against the ones in their actual class. Honestly, I don’t care, most of you will continue to be faster than me so come on over. With our events extending to 2 hours one way, I’m struggling to make the points events myself. But I openly suggest staying in your actual class and fighting it out with your peers. If you’re chasing the sticker for bragging rights, I question what you’re bragging about.

Just my 2 cents.
Well for this event at least, M0 isn't very stacked or have randoms be in there that shouldn't be. I know there are talks about some people going into M0 for next season. If not everyone and their mothers jump to M0, the competition spread would look pretty good. I'm dipping out of M0, going back to M2 where I belong.

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Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:20 pm
by twistedwankel
AScoda wrote:FAST classing overview wrote:You’ll find no information for classing karts as we do not allow karts.
I used to own a "K Car" but it had sheet metal and was slow. :lol:

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Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:00 pm
by aw614
the firewall still has a miata vin, so its a miata in my book :thumbwink:

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Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:19 pm
by twistedwankel
aw614 wrote:the firewall still has a miata vin, so its a miata in my book :thumbwink:
And you will vote for this man too. College graduate. Max donation $20.20. Yes he's pretty nuts here in Hernando County. Only lives two blocks away.

SS = Suicide Squad in MO now. Should be an "X" class for these things that are not real cars.

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Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:07 am
by aaronwilliams16
twistedwankel wrote:
aw614 wrote:the firewall still has a miata vin, so its a miata in my book :thumbwink:
And you will vote for this man too. College graduate. Max donation $20.20. Yes he's pretty nuts here in Hernando County. Only lives two blocks away.

SS = Suicide Squad in MO now. Should be an "X" class for these things that are not real cars.
Wats not a real car abt it its a miata with a clean title and vin with a unique body kit on it


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Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:31 am
by CaptainSquirts
aaronwilliams16 wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:07 am
twistedwankel wrote:
aw614 wrote:the firewall still has a miata vin, so its a miata in my book :thumbwink:
And you will vote for this man too. College graduate. Max donation $20.20. Yes he's pretty nuts here in Hernando County. Only lives two blocks away.

SS = Suicide Squad in MO now. Should be an "X" class for these things that are not real cars.
Wats not a real car abt it its a miata with a clean title and vin with a unique body kit on it


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Looks legit to me. We've had some of those Caterham looking kit cars and nobody bats an eye. But when you put some good drivers behind the wheel, everybody losses their minds :headscratch: .

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Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:18 am
by SlowMiataDrew
These are the discussions that should've happened last month regarding rule changes...

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Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:26 pm
by CaptainSquirts
SlowMiataDrew wrote:These are the discussions that should've happened last month regarding rule changes...
See what happens when you get FTD :lol: .

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Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:07 pm
by BrilloHeadBen
SlowMiataDrew wrote:These are the discussions that should've happened last month regarding rule changes...
No discussion necessary. M0 is exactly where the Kart belongs. Just because a group of people in M2 and M1 cars decided to run M0 doesn't mean we need to change any rules just because they might not win a class they don't belong in.

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Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:40 pm
by Rawkkrawler
BrilloHeadBen wrote:
SlowMiataDrew wrote:These are the discussions that should've happened last month regarding rule changes...
No discussion necessary. M0 is exactly where the Kart belongs. Just because a group of people in M2 and M1 cars decided to run M0 doesn't mean we need to change any rules just because they might not win a class they don't belong in.
Two different conversations here. One regarding the kart, looks like an M0 car to me. The other is more comical, moving classes to win a sticker. I hear things like “Mark has new shocks, better move to M0”, makes me laugh. I personally look at overall time, I’m competitive with a certain handful of people. Dan is getting too fast for me, Ron and I are 50/50. And Rowen, he’s fast in almost everything. But hey, everyone can move to M0, I’m still having fun.

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Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:45 pm
by twistedwankel
SlowMiataDrew wrote:These are the discussions that should've happened last month regarding rule changes...
Sorry, the pix didn't come out until August and I wasn't at that event. You guys aren't the first. Some guy came out with a stripped RX8 once last year that he actually drove to the event as had lights. There have been others running AM and EM over the years. Used to see them at Corvette events mostly. Practicing for LeMons. One was a trailered Frankenstein pickup. I think Andrew drove that one?

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Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:01 pm
by CaptainSquirts
Rawkkrawler wrote: I hear things like “Mark has new shocks, better move to M0”, makes me laugh.
I hope he goes into M0 then :lol: . I would be as if not more worried about Philip being in M1.

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Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:10 pm
by aw614
twistedwankel wrote: Used to see them at Corvette events mostly. Practicing for LeMons. One was a trailered Frankenstein pickup. I think Andrew drove that one?
Yep driven it when it had a Nissan Vg30 and when it went L98. A friend of Kyle and I got to drive it before the body panels were put on to meet Chump (champcar's) 60% body panel rule and also when the engine and other parts were in what used to be a 300zx. Probably the only time you'll see someone swap a nissan v6 into a ford ranger :rolling:
Still a very weird experience to drive, but everything on it seems to be all of Mike Orgen's suspension theories he's researched and tested over the years that makes it work really well for sebring or daytona.

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Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:07 pm
by twistedwankel
BTW. At "Classic events" no one really cares who wins what. Most guys are jumping from car to car making times jump all over the place with the same number. Technically someone driving a Crown Vic could use their same number in an MO or R1 car and get FTD.

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Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:40 pm
by lddavis91
BrilloHeadBen wrote:
SlowMiataDrew wrote:These are the discussions that should've happened last month regarding rule changes...
No discussion necessary. M0 is exactly where the Kart belongs. Just because a group of people in M2 and M1 cars decided to run M0 doesn't mean we need to change any rules just because they might not win a class they don't belong in.
I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I'm not so sure I agree. I think the argument could be legitimately made that M0 should be at least a road legal car which this "Miata kart" is not. The second sentence
FAST Modified Rules wrote:The Modified Category is intended for modified, but streetable cars on street tires.
Road legal isn't a particularly strict rule here in Florida, car likely just needs some functional lights and a windshield I believe and it would be good.

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Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:09 pm
by Carracer
My original hope/dream would be to try and get all the FAST FTD regulars in one class, would be fun to go for FTD every weekend. But I can see now how that screws up classing and makes me a bit of a hypocrite since I dislike PAX classes since it dilutes the actual classes.