December 2011 - Post-Event thread
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Re: December 2011 - Post-Event thread
Howard, we're not insured by SCCA. Our policy isn't as vague as the "low 60's for stock and street prepared" language found in the SCCA rule book. But, hey, good news! It looks like K&K has raised the limit from 60 to 70. Look here(scroll way down to the last two pages). But, we'll need to verify that Brooksville is okay with that. They always said "60" when we asked before, but that was likely tied to what our insurance said.
For now, we aim to keep the fastest cars below 65 and street cars well below 60. <ahem> I'd rather not document the occasional excess here on the forum. Hence... 'nuff said.
We do shift our courses around as best we can to avoid broken or breaking areas of concrete. It's getting harder and harder to do. If you want to discuss patching, that topic probably deserves its own thread.
For now, we aim to keep the fastest cars below 65 and street cars well below 60. <ahem> I'd rather not document the occasional excess here on the forum. Hence... 'nuff said.
We do shift our courses around as best we can to avoid broken or breaking areas of concrete. It's getting harder and harder to do. If you want to discuss patching, that topic probably deserves its own thread.
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Re: December 2011 - Post-Event thread
[quote="Loren"] But, we'll need to verify that Brooksville is okay with that. They always said "60" when we asked before, but that was likely tied to what our insurance said.
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The last non competition Corvette club 'test and tune' I went to @ Hernando in the bone dry was pretty quick on the return lap third gear 1/4+ mile in my stock stang:)
But Shamu will ONLY go 85 according to the speedo so it's a 'slow' car and I never watch the speedo when racing anyhow so who really knows?
My Rx-8 can do 68mph max @ redline in second but I've never hit the limiter EVER in 2nd at any actual competition event. So I'm thinking our courses are well designed always.
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The last non competition Corvette club 'test and tune' I went to @ Hernando in the bone dry was pretty quick on the return lap third gear 1/4+ mile in my stock stang:)
But Shamu will ONLY go 85 according to the speedo so it's a 'slow' car and I never watch the speedo when racing anyhow so who really knows?
My Rx-8 can do 68mph max @ redline in second but I've never hit the limiter EVER in 2nd at any actual competition event. So I'm thinking our courses are well designed always.
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Re: December 2011 - Post-Event thread
Yeah, Corvette club runs quicker than we do. Don't know how they get away with it. Not our problem. 
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Fantastic. Digging the black and white work there Greg!
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Re: December 2011 - Post-Event thread
I had a lot of fun at Saturday's event. Thank you Jamie and Phil! Awesome course! I thought that only slaloms could be set up at Brooksville. The rain didn't hurt things one bit (except for those who had to work in it, thanks for making that happen for the rest of us
). I've only previously worked in the rain and never competed in it. That was a very learning experience.
Really neat b/w's Greg!
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nc4me wrote: The second one was the same thing Chris did in his angry bird video. You should have stayed to the right of the first slalom cone on the way back, just like you did with the second slalom. By staying right it turns it into a one cone slalom (if there is such a thing). Otherwise, that was a good run!
I saw Jeremy takin that line as well as a few orther fast guys I never tried it I thoght for sure left would be faster
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I never tried going right there, but didn't feel that left was slow at all. Left entry seemed easier to me and the exit was a non-issue. Doesn't seem like I'd have been able to carry as much throttle through the section leading into it if I tried to get over to the right side.yamaha731 wrote:I saw Jeremy takin that line as well as a few orther fast guys I never tried it I thoght for sure left would be fasternext time I'll have to go for a ride with you after you figgerout all the fast lines
Which way did Drew take it?
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Re: December 2011 - Post-Event thread
It was pretty easy to stay right. You should have tried it. 
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Thanks for the pic Greg.
I swiped the one of my car.
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Racing against my NEON is like getting in a fight with a girl, if you win you, you can't brag about it, and if you lose, you hope nobody finds out!
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Never tried going right, left felt good but maybe if it was dry ...Loren wrote:I never tried going right there, but didn't feel that left was slow at all. Left entry seemed easier to me and the exit was a non-issue. Doesn't seem like I'd have been able to carry as much throttle through the section leading into it if I tried to get over to the right side.yamaha731 wrote:I saw Jeremy takin that line as well as a few orther fast guys I never tried it I thoght for sure left would be fasternext time I'll have to go for a ride with you after you figgerout all the fast lines
Which way did Drew take it?
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awesome pics Greg! really like the B&WGreg wrote: Bigger versions :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/eunos89/se ... 407557269/
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My bad Greg. I didn't know they were for sale. I posted the one you put up here on my FB page. I said who took it and threw out the company name per your web site. I'll have to buy some tomorrow, me likey. 
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nc4me wrote:My bad Greg ...
Which Greg ?? both Greg's have pictures on here lol
You are free to post my pics wherever you like, if you want a full size without the watermark then you have the option buy
Make sure to post your favorites in the FAST galery.
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You Greg and thanks.
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Re: December 2011 - Post-Event thread

Who's that guy turned backward and sliding by the timing equipment?
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Re: December 2011 - Post-Event thread
garage west wrote:Who's that guy turned backward and sliding by the timing equipment?
You're doing it wrong.
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Holy crap, pics of my car! Thanks for making them affordable Greg. I know too many photographers that over charge for their pix! Hmm, the rear end is still squatting too much. DAMN, I wonder if they can adjust my alignment without charging me an arm and a leg again.
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Re: December 2011 - Post-Event thread
Sager words were never said.Loren wrote:Anytime, Rick! You need to work on getting the "racing line" into your head and quit trying to make everything a discrete straight or turn. Blend it all together and make it flow! It's a zen thing.rab wrote:Thanks Loren for the multiple help sessions.![]()
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