Need a new car

[Loren]

Buy my S2000. $18,749.

He wants a fast car, Jeremy.

[Jeremy]

My car can be fast for about $10K in parts.

[nc4me]

My dad loves driving my mazda,

Sell Dad the Miata for $$
I'll be payment free in 2 years versus 5 with the Z,
If you sell Dad the Miata you'll be debt free NOW.

and I don't know if my current roommate (ex-wife) will hang around to pay her part of the rent for the house.

I will never bitch at my son for continuing to live with his ex-girlfriend for rent money again.

So I decided to keep the mazda and see what the deal is in 2 years.

NO NO. If you want to really drive a 370Z coupe when I was at Mazda dealer today getting air in tires rotated + oil changed I saw a 2010 370Z with 15k, white with black interior (sweet) but auto.....so (like you can shift that fast) you can drive it to see if you still like them? Call Darren McKethan @ 800-542-5889 and he will show you some love for a real test drive. Ed Morse Mazda Dealer 10133 Rt 19 in Port Richey. email darrenmckethan@edmorse.com if you are speech impaired or a texter. Hint, hint = Mazda dealer took one in trade and you have a what? Duh.

If they still make the 370 I may buy it then or I may supercharge the mazda since there will be more reliability reports as to how they handle them long term.

Supercharging a newer Miata is like blowing into a balloon. It takes your breath away for only a few seconds and then you realize it's still a Miata and continue lusting after the "other car"...hahahaha = that makes you Chris Baron seeking the holy grail.

Bad news is $33,900 for a two year old car but it still has a factory warrantee. It was a trade in and not a flood victim.

So Chris. Go drive the snot out of the "used white car" then rethink all this $33,900 stuff. I know where there is a sweet 06 Z4 coupe for less than $19k which puts you "out of debt"........"no need for a balloon fantasy"......

**Even if you buy a new 370Z and move into S2 "The Boys" have all ready informed me of low cost 9.5" light rims which will hold 285mm meats for my 2004 'used' Rx8 with no payments....so why bother? What must those 2012 370z's cost? $40k? OMG.

My dad can't afford the car.
If I sell my dad the miata I'll only be debt free if I don't buy the Z. If I buy the Z it would be a 60 month loan.
I don't live with her for rent money. I let her move in because she has small intestine cancer and she wants to be close to our child. If she leaves I would have to pay full rent, which I did before and am fine with, but it is just a possible thing that may happen.
The car you speak of is a ripoff at that price. I can get a new one (370Z with sport pack) for that price.
The holy grail is reliability. If I know the supercharger kits are reliable then I'm all set. The 370 has the speed I want and can match my mazda's handling. So, if I add the supercharger I have what I want, the speed of the Z (maybe even faster, a member of the mx5 forum ran his at the track and ran a 13.1) and my car already handles well.
I'll address the Z4 comment in a separate response.

[nc4me]

Buy my S2000. $18,749.

He wants a fast car, Jeremy.

Neither of your cars can be what the 370 is. And if I ever do get rid of my car, which I probably won't do for about another 6 years if I do at all (I tend to keep cars for about a decade), I'll have to see what car I think is the best at that time.

I'm in no rush. I do LOVE my MX-5. I thought I loved the 370 more, which I do (only because of the speed and a real overdrive gear for cruising on the interstate). I can do without the overdrive (since I don't do road trips or anything with the mazda) and I can add some speed to the mazda later on. It is not like I'm trying to dump my car for any car, because I don't like it. I love my car. So, thanks for both offers, but no thanks. I'll stick with the car I love.

[Jeremy]

Buy my S2000. $18,749.

He wants a fast car, Jeremy.

Neither of your cars can be what the 370 is.

3300 lbs?

I was just joking anyway, my car is worth about $14K, I think. And I don't really want to sell it, but the parts are so expensive that it might make more sense to sell it than to try and make it fast.

[nc4me]

I was just joking anyway, my car is worth about $14K, I think. And I don't really want to sell it, but the parts are so expensive that it might make more sense to sell it than to try and make it fast.

What parts would you add to make it fast? I heard that the stock suspension is really good and that most aftermarket suspension parts really don't do much. So, are you talking about power mods or handling mods?

[Jeremy]

I was just joking anyway, my car is worth about $14K, I think. And I don't really want to sell it, but the parts are so expensive that it might make more sense to sell it than to try and make it fast.

What parts would you add to make it fast? I heard that the stock suspension is really good and that most aftermarket suspension parts really don't do much. So, are you talking about power mods or handling mods?

Supercharger $6000 http://www.kraftwerksusa.com/product-de ... roductId=8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Coilovers $2400 http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/merch ... e=35250005" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And I really want a hardtop too, those are $2500.

Stock s2000 suspension is pretty soft. Jack Neely put Moton's on his car and instantly started beating me. It was obvious when you watched our runs back to back.

So that's why I am driving Charles's car instead. My car will be paid off in a couple months and I am thinking about throwing some parts on it.

[nc4me]

I was just joking anyway, my car is worth about $14K, I think. And I don't really want to sell it, but the parts are so expensive that it might make more sense to sell it than to try and make it fast.

What parts would you add to make it fast? I heard that the stock suspension is really good and that most aftermarket suspension parts really don't do much. So, are you talking about power mods or handling mods?

Supercharger $6000 http://www.kraftwerksusa.com/product-de ... roductId=8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Coilovers $2400 http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/merch ... e=35250005" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And I really want a hardtop too, those are $2500.

Stock s2000 suspension is pretty soft. Jack Neely put Moton's on his car and instantly started beating me. It was obvious when you watched our runs back to back.

So that's why I am driving Charles's car instead. My car will be paid off in a couple months and I am thinking about throwing some parts on it.

So you're doing what I'll most likely end up doing, adding a supercharger. Kraftwerks is supposed to be developing a kit for the NC currently.

I don't know about the suspension thing. When Jack came to a FAST event with the motons on street tires, I beat him. So maybe you were just having an off day.

[Jeremy]

I don't know about the suspension thing. When Jack came to a FAST event with the motons on street tires, I beat him. So maybe you were just having an off day.

Jack never beat me, but his co-driver, John Ward did. Three times in a row. I almost beat him once, but I missed a shift, and it probably cost me a couple tenths, which I lost by.

Jack got a lot closer though, and he may have beat me once that I don't recall.

[yamaha731]

no longer need a new car

[buddy bodean]

Okay, spill the beans. What did ya get?

[yamaha731]

1999 mustang completly stock for now...but after selling the firebird and buying the mustang I have money thats just waiting to be spent. If I put 17X10 rims on would that bump me from stock?

[garage west]

1999 mustang completly stock for now...but after selling the firebird and buying the mustang I have money thats just waiting to be spent. If I put 17X10 rims on would that bump me from stock?

Back to the blue oval!

[Loren]

1999 mustang completly stock for now...but after selling the firebird and buying the mustang I have money thats just waiting to be spent. If I put 17X10 rims on would that bump me from stock?

FAST has no limitation on wheel size in any class.

[twistedwankel]

1999 mustang completly stock for now...but after selling the firebird and buying the mustang I have money thats just waiting to be spent. If I put 17X10 rims on would that bump me from stock?

FAST has no limitation on wheel size in any class.

You sure you won't have to roll the fenders to make those meats fit? That might tip the scales on stock? The advantage of 10's over 9's is that you can roll lawns on off weekends

[Loren]

1999 mustang completly stock for now...but after selling the firebird and buying the mustang I have money thats just waiting to be spent. If I put 17X10 rims on would that bump me from stock?

FAST has no limitation on wheel size in any class.

You sure you won't have to roll the fenders to make those meats fit? That might tip the scales on stock? The advantage of 10's over 9's is that you can roll lawns on off weekends

Read the rules. Nothing is keeping you from rolling fenders in stock. This ain't SCCA.

[buddy bodean]

You sure you won't have to roll the fenders to make those meats fit? That might tip the scales on stock? The advantage of 10's over 9's is that you can roll lawns on off weekends

The 'stang will happily fit 315s on 17x10 (rear) and 275s on 17x9 (front) without rolling the fenders. I think that is what Jeff G is running as streets.

[twistedwankel]

Read the rules. Nothing is keeping you from rolling fenders in stock. This ain't SCCA.

Apparently not an issue for Chris anyhow. AND good to know with aftermarket offsets.

"Alternate main body panels (doors, hood, trunk lid, fenders, roof panel, windows)" = You the boss but I thought it would be prohibited here.

But since you sent me to read those again "Welded chassis reinforcement, including welded roll bars/cages".

Does this imply (by omission) that any "bolt on" components such as subframe connectors, control arms, frame rails, k-members, strut tower braces front and rear can be used? Just curious is all. But those would be cool to have on a boring old flexible skinny wheeled stock car.

Doug

[Loren]

Alternate body panels means no fiberglass or carbon fiber replacements. We're not going to sweat a little bending or minor holes or adding on a scoop or spoiler or whatever.

And bolt-on braces are allowed.

Simplest rule set ever. Means what it says, says what it means, and says as little as possible.

[garage west]

Simplest rule set ever. Means what it says, says what it means, and says as little as possible.

this is what makes FAST great!