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Re: 13 November SPC

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:00 pm
by Jamie
Dave-ROR wrote: Still need timing?
Not too worried about it...just explaining the empty slot.

Re: 13 November SPC

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:07 pm
by 76-TR6
Jamie wrote:That said, there's only two people assigned to the trailer...did I say I could really use a couple of people for teardown?

Still looking at doing a 2-lap course for this one...still looking at ideas.
I'm available to help. Just tell me where you need help the most on the day of the event and I'll lend a hand...

Looking forward to my 2nd autox! :happyblob:

Robert

Re: 13 November SPC

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:15 pm
by Jamie
76-TR6 wrote:
Jamie wrote:...I could really use a couple of people for teardown?
ust tell me where you need help the most on the day of the event and I'll lend a hand...
I'll take that as a volunteer.

Re: 13 November SPC

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:15 pm
by Jamie
9 Nov: After some consultation, we've adjusted the course a bit to better protect the start. That slightly changes the part of the loop nearest the concrete pad. Note that we're also shooting to start the drivers meeting earlier than usual, so please be ready!

Course map's up! This one's a bit more complex than September's, so we will have the drivers meeting out on course, to make sure everyone knows how it works We'll try and start things a little early as well -- shooting for a 9:30 drivers meeting.

I've attached a PDF version below -- print a copy if you want one at the event.
13 Nov SPC v1.2.jpg
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Re: 13 November SPC

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:20 pm
by buddy bodean
Really nice layout Jamie. Is that a rolling grid I see?

Re: 13 November SPC

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:53 pm
by Jamie
Wasn't planning on a rolling grid -- that requires people to stay with their cars the whole time. We usually have people leaving their cars to check times, grab some water, or relieve themselves, so a rolling grid would back up towards the finish.

Depending on how the novice mix shakes out, I'm considering putting someone with a neutral flag inbetween stations 2 and 3 to point cars through that gate.

If we have a walk-on response like September, I may resort to the same method for making the fourth run group and just scoop all the stragglers into it.

Re: 13 November SPC

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:18 pm
by Loren
Yeah, rolling grid is bad news for most events.

Re: 13 November SPC

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:48 pm
by jreid1000
Jamie wrote:This one's a bit more complex than September's
Just a bit! Looks great. Wish I could have made this event.

Re: 13 November SPC

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:06 pm
by Jamie
I split the discussion on run groups into a separate thread titled "Run groups" in the General forum. Back to our regularly scheduled discussion on next weekend's event.

Re: 13 November SPC

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:05 pm
by Solar
Jamie wrote:This one's a bit more complex than September's -- I'm considering a mandatory group walk to make sure there's no question on how it works, so be prepared to do a group walk around 9:30 or so.
From the conversations that Jamie and I have had, the mandatory walk is going to be, well, mandatory. This will be done to insure that everyone knows how the course is set up. This includes ALL DRIVERS no matter if you are a novice or a seasoned driver, we need to make sure everyone that is driving and/or working knows how the course works.

Every driver needs to be prepared to walk the course at 9:30

Re: 13 November SPC

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:16 pm
by Loren
Kinda holding my tongue here, but I have to say that if a course requires a mandatory walk-through for all drivers... it needs to be improved so that it doesn't.

I'm not going to "press any buttons" this time, but if this doesn't go well, next time I will.

Re: 13 November SPC

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:45 pm
by Jamie
This is the first time we've done a multi-lap course since I've been here, and I'd consider a mandatory walk for that reason even if we were running a constant-direction circuit. As Brian pointed out to me in another conversation, there's alot of chit-chat on the outer edges of the driver's meetings, and it's usually not novices. We're trying something new, and I want to make sure everyone "gets it," including those who believe they already do.

Re: 13 November SPC

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:45 pm
by shakedown067
I dig the course Jamie! Seems pretty straight forward to me. Not looking forward to setup though, I hate cone walls. LOL I should really stick to tear down for SPC, but I've got family in town this weekend, and will once again have to jet sooner than later. :-D

So, should I print out an 18x24 poster of the map for the driver's meeting? Reminds me, I need to tweak the Police Course map to show all the tall cones they changed last year.

Re: 13 November SPC

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:24 pm
by Jamie
shakedown067 wrote:So, should I print out an 18x24 poster of the map for the driver's meeting? Reminds me, I need to tweak the Police Course map to show all the tall cones they changed last year.
Anything that makes the police course easier and faster to reset is a great thing. :)

If you're loking to do a poster, we could really use something to hang on the fence at the entrance gate telling people to check in and sign the waiver. We've been tending to get a steady trickle of later-arriving guests and just curious people wandering by. Drivers have been pretty good about routing them all to the trailer to sign the waiver and all, but it's by happenstance rather than design. If we had something saying "Welcome to FAST! Please check in at registration" (or at at the trailer, or....), we might save ourselves a hassle sometime.

Re: 13 November SPC

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:35 pm
by Loren
If we go to the trouble of making a sign, let's add "please proceed BEHIND THE GUARDRAIL to your right to the picnic area or trailer to check in". Or else we're just telling people to make a bee-line across the grid to the trailer.

Re: 13 November SPC

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:38 pm
by shakedown067
I'll work on that. Might just be a throw-a-way sign for this weekend, but I can probably squeeze in a registration sign or two. Now, where did I put that laminator for the police maps...

Re: 13 November SPC

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:41 pm
by shakedown067
Loren wrote:If we go to the trouble of making a sign, let's add "please proceed BEHIND THE GUARDRAIL to your right to the picnic area or trailer to check in". Or else we're just telling people to make a bee-line across the grid to the trailer.
Hmm, maybe I can make one that goes on a pole we can put in one of the BIG cones there at SPC. That should be easy enough.

Re: 13 November SPC

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:48 pm
by Loren
shakedown067 wrote:Hmm, maybe I can make one that goes on a pole we can put in one of the BIG cones there at SPC. That should be easy enough.
Just hang it on the gate. We should be closing the gate to 2-3 feet to keep cars out but allow foot traffic in, anyway. That's the logical place for a sign.

Re: 13 November SPC

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:02 pm
by shakedown067
Well, that'll keep it easy enough.

Re: 13 November SPC

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:16 pm
by twistedwankel
Loren wrote:If we go to the trouble of making a sign, let's add "please proceed BEHIND THE GUARDRAIL to your right to the picnic area or trailer to check in". Or else we're just telling people to make a bee-line across the grid to the trailer.
OR just have one worker assignment be Waiver Person who sits at the gate until relieved and checks wrist bands and makes new arrivals sign up or stand outside. Nothing like having directions upon entry. Getting to be lots of folks with gamie knees doing this racing stuff who cannot run after cones.