Da Groj

let me tell you how stupid I feel for taking the turn around in 2nd. in retrospect, lugging the engine at 3-4k rpm with peak power at near 9 rpm was dumb

the fastiva probably exited that turn faster hahaha

Loren wrote:

Jamie wrote:...but Loren rarely lays out circular turnarounds.

Mostly out of kindness to the course workers and those doing setup! One or two apex cones to pick up beats 20.

I also like a turn-around that makes you think. Turning around on that 150' wide slab of concrete is a necessary evil for EVERY Brooksville course. Simple no-brainer skidpad turns are boring!

Don't throw the "kindness to the workers" card...you can lay out a semicircle with three cones. The second statement's more accurate!

I meant in comparison to a full "skidpad circle" kind of thing. I'm more a fan of minimal cones when I can get away with it.

Loren wrote:I meant in comparison to a full "skidpad circle" kind of thing. I'm more a fan of minimal cones when I can get away with it.

Nope. But the hint to everyone else is: most of Loren's turnarounds are not laid down as circles, and if you stick close to the cones (as we taught for circular skidpads), you'll normally find a "gotcha" that forces you off the optimum line. Just sayin', look for it. (Every now and then he lays down a real circle, just to see if we're paying attention!)

That's not unique to Loren, or to FAST -- the art of course design is in part creating illusions and visual intimidation the driver has to see past to drive the course quickly. Apex cones offset a bit. Walls that don't constrain you. Think of it as the autocross equivalent of blind or off camber corners (although a few sites can offer those, too!).

All of my secrets revealed. I feel so naked.

Loren wrote:All of my secrets revealed. I feel so naked.

I can't unimagine this.
I'll have to sell my car and never race again.

After bumping into a wall on the way to the October Open event, it was great to make it to this one without incident. My brother (Ed in the white Geo Prizm) and I had a great time. I liked the simplicity of this course, in that it forced you to take the correct line in order to succeed.
S5 is suddenly full of people! Last season I almost had it by participation alone! I'm gonna have to get those Toyos sooner than I expected; these General Altimaxes just won't cut it any more.

Oh, and here's the video of my best run of the day (40.173). I was off the line and not pushing as hard as I could have, hence why I lost to the 3 speed Prizm.
https://www.facebook.com/rdareingdale/v ... nref=story

Rpwolf wrote:

Loren wrote:All of my secrets revealed. I feel so naked.

I can't unimagine this.
I'll have to sell my car and never race again.

And now I've affiliated this image specifically with YOUR car.

You should probably go wipe any prints off your hood...

Amphoteric88 wrote:After bumping into a wall on the way to the October Open event, it was great to make it to this one without incident. My brother (Ed in the white Geo Prizm) and I had a great time. I liked the simplicity of this course, in that it forced you to take the correct line in order to succeed.

You guys are awesome!

The fast way through and where the cones are placed.. Sometimes don't line up(and honestly good designs should make you think) Loren is always good for a few "tricks". And by tricks I don't mean bad.. The whole point is to drive a racing line(but not have it spelled out)

Gerry wrote:I'm disappointed that The Mayor did not beat me, especially before elections are over. Maybe he needs to hold on to that RX-8?

It occurred to me I cannot beat a 25HP gocart either You realize both you and Dan are running 9" wheels that are wider than my stock 8.5" Vette ones right? I will beat you both once I get the hang of these new meats and the confidence not to put the car into a powered tail spin which no Miata can physically even do unless ruined by aftermarket bling for boy racers.