Chicago box turn around?

[jbrannon7]

Maybe in one of the upcoming Brookesville events we could have a chicago box turn around. I have seen the C Box used many times as a little slalom but seldom as a turn around. When used as a turn around if you enter it properly you should not have to move the steering wheel at all, all the turn corrections should be able to be done with the throttle. This may be heresy in this pin turn loving club.

Joe

http://www.flickr.com/photos/92777207@N05/8584172186/

[Loren]

This may be heresy in this pin turn loving club.

I don't know about heresy, but that sounds a lot like whining.

[Loren]

Okay, now that I've looked at your drawing... We've actually done variations of that before. Remember, we've been doing autocrosses at Brooksville for something like 6 or 7 years.

Now, if you look on our website, you'll see about 18 different Brooksville courses from the past few years. I think the closest you'll find to a "pin turn" turn-around is this one. And guess what? It's purely a course designer trick! Nothing is forcing you to drive that as a "pin turn", and that's usually how we do it. If you're wise enough to recognize that the fast line is to make it NOT a hairpin, you'll enjoy some momentum coming out of the turn. It's only a pin turn if that's how you choose to drive it. (and for most cars, doing so would not be the fast line)

This one has sort of the gist of what you're suggesting. It's one that could be driven quite fast if you were able to "thread the needle" just right and had the confidence to do it fast, much as you would a "chicago box" turn-around.

Actually this one is more hairpinish than the first example. It was truly difficult to drive. Coming out of a slalom and going back into a slalom gave you little opportunity to "widen" the turn.

[Jeremy]

I hate chicago boxes, and slaloms. They are boring and take no thought to design. Pretty sure that's how they are used. Course designer gets to a point in the design and can't figure out what to do next, so they just plop down a chicago box.

They should be banned from Brooksville.

[Loren]

95% of everything on an airstrip course is a slalom one way or another.

[twistedwankel]

Seriously....

The moderator says dial it back a few hundred rpm and save it for face-to-face where there's an option to punch each other in the nose.

Co-chairing an event is the easy way to get your say in course design.

[rab]

Just went through one of these at the MSCC School. They called it a Staple. It really is nicely challenging to get it right. Sweep out too far hit the wall of cones. Too tight you loose your line.. Really fun when you get it right.