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Alignment shops around Tampa/Sarasota

Postby rippin mazda » Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:49 pm

I'm looking for a place that will do custom alignments thats a reasonable drive from me in venice. Anyone?

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Postby Loren » Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:59 pm

Dan Rasp at Cars & Concepts in Tampa. Dan is the man. They usually schedule about 2-3 weeks out and it will cost around $90, but well worth it.

Or, if you're closer to Ft. Myers, Dave Hutter (you can find him on the Gulfcoast Autocrossers website).
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Postby kickslop » Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:21 pm

Just so you're not surprised (and yes, Loren did say "around $90"), my alignment was $130-$140 as I recall (at Cars and Concepts).
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Postby Loren » Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:30 pm

Yeah, they're a high-end shop and I think the boss makes them charge for actual time. So, $90 is probably the minimum. I think mine was something like $120 because I had Dan replace the front cam bolts while he did it.

But, Dan knows Miatas and has also tinkered with a lot of other cars, and he understands performance alignment. You could get a $70 alignment at a local tire shop... but you get what you pay for there. (if you're lucky)
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Postby kickslop » Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:32 pm

Agreed re: Dan. Not a complaint above at all :)
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Postby Native » Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:15 pm

another .02 from another satisfied racer with a custom Dan Rasp alignment.
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Postby d_rasp » Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:09 pm

Our prices have slowly moved up in the last 2 years. Used to be under $100, but we didn't really have anyone doing suspension set-up. Just listening to the customers and doing thier #'s. Then I started to really focus on alignments and corner weighting, etc. and we got a TON of business, but it's really not our meat & potatoes.

We're primarily a BMW/Mercedes repair & performance shop. I love doing alignments, but the bosses have to charge more for my work now as they were loosing money having me do lengthy set-ups instead of better paying work. The solution = charge more for alignments. . .
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Postby Native » Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:51 pm

I've not gotten a "performance alignment" before, except the one Dan did. I presented him with the numbers I wanted, told him what I wanted to accomplish handling-wise, he tweaked the numbers a bit on paper, then went to work. He was within a few hundredths of all of them by the time he was done, and the car does exactly what he said it would.

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Postby Miata GT » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:15 am

Back from the dead...

Now that Dan has moved on from C'nC, where does anyone recommend having a custom alignment done now?
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Postby Loren » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:59 am

I believe one of the guys at C&C is still a great option. Dan is more knowledgable about setting up Miatas specifically, but if you know what specs you want and just need someone to get 'em there... they should be able to do it. I really don't know who else is good for alignments around here.

Wilsey in St. Pete used to be recommended, but I wasn't impressed when I went there.
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Postby Loren » Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:00 am

I believe one of the guys at C&C is still a great option. Dan is more knowledgable about setting up Miatas specifically, but if you know what specs you want and just need someone to get 'em there... they should be able to do it. I really don't know who else is good for alignments around here.

Wilsey in St. Pete used to be recommended, but I wasn't impressed when I went there.
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Postby Miata GT » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:16 pm

You can say that again!!!

I was hoping there was another place. Even when Dan was there I never got the feeling they were very interested in our 'lowly' cars...or as Dan said, doing alignments when more profitable work could be done.

I trust Dan and his work. I wish there was another place!
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Postby d_rasp » Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:54 pm

Mark - I'm sorry, I totally had a brain-fart on replying to your text. :(

I'd still take performance alignments to Steve @ C&C. He taught me what I know & is a great guy. You have to have a thick skin, as regardless of what you drive, they like to have a little fun with the customers. Steve has a great deal of respect for Miatas though, and I'd trust him with my own car (that means a lot coming from a mechanic.)

Bottom line: don't be scared off by any jokes or attitude you may have detected in the past. C&C is about getting the work done, and right. It's not cheap & they aren't into sucking up to customers. ;)
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Re: Alignment shops around Tampa/Sarasota

Postby Charles » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:40 pm

Bumpin' this old thread.

Who have you guys used these days that could do my 240 correctly? Caster/Camber/toe the works.

At lower speeds the car feels ok, but from 65mph+ it's pretty hairy. Cornering under power in 3rd gear usually results in a near death experience :)

I suspect front caster way off, but I'm not sure.

I can't remember from the last time we spoke Jeff, can you can do caster within a fair bit of accuracy? Monday morning?
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Re: Alignment shops around Tampa/Sarasota

Postby Loren » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:49 pm

Sounds more like a spring/bar/shock problem than an alignment problem. You need more weight bias toward the rear. I'd start with swaybars. Stiffen the front or soften the rear.
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Re: Alignment shops around Tampa/Sarasota

Postby Charles » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:54 pm

Loren wrote:Sounds more like a spring/bar/shock problem than an alignment problem. You need more weight bias toward the rear. I'd start with swaybars. Stiffen the front or soften the rear.

Hmmm, the rebound is jacked almost all the way up on my Konis, that might be a place to start.

I'm still on stock front and rear swaybars with 76yr old original "D-bushings" and end-links on those.
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Re: Alignment shops around Tampa/Sarasota

Postby Loren » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:09 pm

Think about it. Outside rear tire wants to lift in a turn. High rebound damping on the rear shocks makes that tire want to stay IN THE AIR rather than in contact with the ground.

You're onto something there, my friend. Soften those rear shocks.

You should totally still go pay Jeff for a good alignment, though. He needs the money.
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