July 21 Autocross - SPC

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Postby Dave-ROR » Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:35 pm

Native wrote:So, I read the post above about Jesse's Sky and thought, crap, I never updated the season points after June. Oops. It's done now.

So, what class do I need to move Jesse to, and I assume it's for the whole season, right?

I'll try to get July's done a little sooner :oops:
F and yes, it's for the whole season. I think the auto tranny in his car offsets the turbo tho :P
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Postby Native » Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:56 pm

F it is.

Thanks. See you Saturday.
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Postby WAFlowers » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:36 am

I'm going to have to drop out and give my spot to someone else.

Our kitchen remodel is behind schedule with an unbreakable deadline fast approaching (relatives coming to visit) so I'm going to have to spend the weekend working on putting the house back in order instead of shredding my tires. :roll:

The good news is that we are down to (mostly) cleaning up all the drywall dust, unpacking boxes and putting the contents away in the new cupboards and (finally!) setting up the home theatre system properly.

In fact, other than lending muscle to move boxes for my wife my main job this weekend is to get the TV in place, the screen calibrated (I've bought an excellent DVD for calibrating DLP screens), the speakers installed in place, the speaker wire fished through the attic as needed, and the speakers balanced. Except for working in the attic, it's all work I enjoy.

Don't worry, I'll still tow the trailer and come pick it up and the end of day.
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Postby lilswi » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:59 am

When I applied the same math to the example on the website I got 3.3 and it showed 3.1.

This is where my confusion is.

From the website:
Forced induction (turbo or supercharger) bumps engine displacement by a factor of 1.5. (e.g. a 2.2 liter turbocharged engine would be classed as 3.1 liter)

2.2*1.5=3.3
3.1<3.3

Since the website showed it as 3.1 I thought there was more to it, then made the assumption that if my car came out to 3.0 it would also be lower thus being in G.

I think we should correct the website so people like me don't make the same assumption in thier favor.
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Postby Dave-ROR » Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:48 am

LOL good point. that number seemed weird to me as well but I never did the math.

Oh well, at least now I can go for a ride with you, it's a lot easier now that we will likely be in different run groups.
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Postby Dave-ROR » Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:50 am

Bill, what's your HT setup?

OT clearly :P
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Postby WAFlowers » Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:06 pm

Dave-ROR wrote:Bill, what's your HT setup?
A Samsung 56" DLP (HL-S5687W) screen, a decent upconverting DVD player (Samsung DVD-HD960), a Yamaha receiver (a few years old, "only" capable of 6.1 surround), some old but excellent speakers from a now defunct Canadian company (Camber -- all Vifa drivers) and a pair of 12" subwoofers using NHT 1259 drivers each with 250watt amps.

I can shake the room and rattle the china when I want. I can also play close-mic'd jazz or orchestral music with incredible fidelity.

Not top end anything, but all very good. And the key is to spend 4-5 hours getting the screen calibrated and the speakers positioned, aimed and balanced. By doing that I have a better setup than much more expensive equipment that is just haphazrdly thrown together as typically happens.

BTW, having at least 2 subwoofers, properly positioned, helps to eliminate standing waves (a problem with low frequency sound reflections) giving a much more uniform sound distribution. Instead of places in the room being louder or softer, the low frequencies just fill the room evenly.

The other key thing is to keep digital data (i.e. DVD content) in the digital domain as long as possible. So I'm using an HDMI cable for the video to the TV and a TOSLINK (fiber) connection for the audio to the receiver.

I've also got a BrightHouse HD DVR with an external (SATA) 300G drive connected via HDMI.
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Postby rippin mazda » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:10 pm

WAFlowers wrote:
Dave-ROR wrote:Bill, what's your HT setup?
BTW, having at least 2 subwoofers, properly positioned, helps to eliminate standing waves (a problem with low frequency sound reflections) giving a much more uniform sound distribution.
OT clearly :P
Clearly. :wink:

Yea standing waves were what I was concerned about when I had two 12" subs in my little hatchback too. 8)

We now return to your previously scheduled thread...
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Postby Native » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:42 pm

We now return to your previously scheduled thread...
Thanks.

Yeah, let's fix that little math error. Apologies for the confusion it may have caused. And because you picked up on it, Jesse, we won't charge you for moving you to the correct class - this one's a freebee on us! :lol: 8)





ps. Kinda off-topic: Event chairpersons needed for, oh, EVERY event for the rest of the year. Plan ahead! Beat the rush! Sign up and reserve yours now before it's too late! Be the first one on your block to chair your very own motorsports event! Impress your date! Make mom proud!
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Postby Alizarin » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:51 pm

When I moved back here from college, I told myself that I'd spend the good money on the audio setup, since speakers last for a really long time. I picked up some really nice Mirage speakers. 7.1 setup, the whole thing. The nice thing about those, they're omnipolar, so precise aiming isn't terribly important. I still have a really crappy TV though. But the sound is awesome.


I'm going to have to run speaker wire through the attic at some point too, Bill. So don't feel bad. Let me know how it goes!
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Postby Dave-ROR » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:52 pm

Well now that we are back off topic :)

52" LCD, an onkyo TX-NR901 receiver, an oldish sony progressive scan dvd player, rotel cd deck, pio cd deck, pio 604 LD, sony sacd player, hd dvr. xbox (for xbox media center). The receiver streams mp3's over the LAN so I rarely use anything but the xbox and receiver anymore.. speakers are all old school THX cert onkyo's, single dual 15" sub, L/C/R are matching with 2 mid bass, 2 mid range and 1 tweeter, the L/R are just in a floor standing cabinet, surrounds are bipole 2 mid range 2 tweeter setups. All controlled via a URC HTM series remote. Cabling is canare, monster and ar.

The speakers are starting to show their age, they've been through more than a few college parties back in the day and have been abused a few times.. probably will get some paradigm's next... some year many years from now :)
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Postby Native » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:02 pm

Ya'll stereophiles take it to Off Topic, please. 8)

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Postby Jamie » Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:41 pm

rippin mazda wrote:Less then two days to go :lol: Boy do I have itch to go burn thru expensive tires and gas in return for an adrenline rush and the possiblity of getting a niffty sticker.
If that itch is contagious, we may have to put you in a quarantine class....
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Postby bama_rebel2000 » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:49 pm

steve lunch is ordered (pizza @ $168.00). work asignments completed. course lay done, approved , and posted. trailer will show up. registeration
asigned. ice drinks and water are taken care of. i would like to thank everyone for helping me get this far. one person cannot chair by themselves it takes most of the club to make the event work. agaln thankyou everyone. steve and jamie have i forgoten anything
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Postby Alizarin » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:04 pm

I'm downloading the registration list now. Jamie, if you have to make any changes please make a note of them and I'll change them tomorrow 8)


Batteries on the timing equipment are charged, the laptop is currently charging now. See you all in the morning!
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Postby Native » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:19 pm

MIke, yer doing great!
Kenny, I've got the list of names you usually like.
Looks like we oughta have a big turnout.

Is it Saturday yet??? :P
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Postby Jamie » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:45 pm

Alizarin wrote:I'm downloading the registration list now. Jamie, if you have to make any changes please make a note of them and I'll change them tomorrow
Only changes I can think of will be hand-jamming the walk-on entries into the database.
Is it Saturday yet?
Considering I have to be up at 5, it's too close!
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Postby kickslop » Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:17 pm

Car is loaded up with 220+ waters and 100 or so sodas. See you in the morning around 8:30.
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Postby Native » Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:53 pm

Whheeeee!

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