Tech Session in the Groj - Aug 5

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Tech Session in the Groj - Aug 5

Postby Loren » Thu Jul 27, 2023 9:07 pm

It's been over 2 years since we've had a Groj Day! Let's do stuff.

So, come help keep me motivated! Come work on your own stuff. Come learn stuff. Come hang out. Come help me eat lunch (the most important meal of the day).

Who: Me. You? Whomever.
What: Wrenching on various cars. Doing groj stuff.
Where: Loren's place in Safety Harbor (PM me if you need the address)
When: Saturday, August 5, 9am-4pm.
Why: Well, it's not nearly as much fun if I pay a shop to do it!

On my list of things to possibly do:
Install lowering springs on the Smart
Check/Adjust alignment on the Smart
Bitch about what a mess the garage is, but not really do anything about it
Maybe fab/weld a bracket to mount a hose reel on the wall

Who's coming? What else do we have to work on?

So far:
Me - springs & alignment
Steve - Miata stuffs
Andy LaChance (maybe) - whining about the heat
Dan Dejon (maybe) - front control arm bushings
Ben Wheaton (probably) - eating cookies
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Tech Session in the Groj - Aug 5

Postby Native » Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:09 pm

I'll be there.
Will bring a car.
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Tech Session in the Groj - Aug 5

Postby Loren » Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:35 pm

Need to do anything on your car? Wrong question. ARE we going to do anything on your car?
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Tech Session in the Groj - Aug 5

Postby CaptainSquirts » Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:43 am

I do need to swap a bushing on the front control arm, but I have an autocross event the next day. Hmmmmmmmmm
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Tech Session in the Groj - Aug 5

Postby Native » Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:26 pm

Loren wrote:Need to do anything on your car? Wrong question. ARE we going to do anything on your car?
haha. The Accord needs an oil/filter but I'll probably do that tomorrow or Sunday.
I've got a laundry list of stuff to do to the Miata, so I'll probably pick something simple to plan to do. Maybe the steering rack boots. Dunno...I'll see.

Once Dan swaps that bushing, I wonder if he'll need someone to test-drive the car for him? :snicker:
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Tech Session in the Groj - Aug 5

Postby Loren » Sat Jul 29, 2023 1:16 am

Dan's Mitsu is the only car I ever set an FTD in. Which is weird, because everyone knows I like lightweight, simple and non-turbo cars! His car just worked.

Anyhow... be sure you've got something to press the bearing out with. I may not be equipped for that. Or, you could see if Joe Brannon is going to be around, he lives fairly close and has a hydraulic press. Could run it over there and make quick work of it.

We got all day, anybody else got anything to work on?
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Tech Session in the Groj - Aug 5

Postby Native » Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:47 am

Loren wrote:His car just worked.
It does. I once coned-away FTD with it. He's got it set up quite nicely.
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Tech Session in the Groj - Aug 5

Postby CaptainSquirts » Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:01 pm

:snicker: If it goes according to plan then sure, you can test drive. My only concern is that could replacing the bushing affect the alignment. I’m thinking it shouldn’t since it’s just going from rubber to poly, and I’m just unhooking the ball joints, sway end links and pulling the control control arms.

How far does Joe live from you Loren? I’ll bring a propane blower torch and a saw zaw but if he’s available I may then do a quick stop after pulling the arms. The new bushings don’t need a press to put em in so just need to bang em out :hammer: .
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Tech Session in the Groj - Aug 5

Postby Loren » Sun Jul 30, 2023 2:51 am

Joe is maybe 10-15 minutes away, over off of Keene near Tampa Rd.

Bushings shouldn't affect alignment much unless... old bushings are worn, or new bushings are offset (intentionally, or otherwise). If you're not having to loosen anything that would adjust the alignment, you're probably okay. You could do a quick check before and after to see if things obviously change.
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Tech Session in the Groj - Aug 5

Postby CaptainSquirts » Thu Aug 03, 2023 11:07 am

Looking at the weather looks like their may be rain. Keeping an eye on it but if it does rain, what’s the plan. If it does straight up look like a rain day I’ll have to skip. Also tools, do we need to bring all the tools, or just certain ones?
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Tech Session in the Groj - Aug 5

Postby Loren » Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:04 pm

If you're just working one end of your car, I can put my car towards the back of the garage, it's only 9 feet long. You (and Steve, for that matter) can work in the front half of the garage.

I've got basic hand tools. Bring anything "special" that you might need. Or, if you think I may or may not have something, just ask.

Oh, and I think Ben's coming.
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Tech Session in the Groj - Aug 5

Postby Native » Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:11 pm

Just the front of the car for me. Gonna do those boots. One, anyway, not sure how fast I am (I'm not). And I'll hit someone up to help me check, and maybe reset, toe.
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Tech Session in the Groj - Aug 5

Postby Loren » Fri Aug 04, 2023 4:56 pm

I'll have a cooler of water (thanks to Steve) and I have a variety of diet sodas around the house. (yes, I've become one of those people) If y'all want anything else, bring it!

We'll figure out lunch when hunger sets in.

I'll be out in the garage about 9am. See y'all when you get there!
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Tech Session in the Groj - Aug 5

Postby CaptainSquirts » Fri Aug 04, 2023 5:32 pm

If you’re doing your toe Steve do you need Toe plates?
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Tech Session in the Groj - Aug 5

Postby Native » Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:06 pm

I wouldn't know what to do with them. I was gonna use a tape measure. But if you think you'll have time to teach, I'm open.
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Postby CaptainSquirts » Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:24 pm

I’ll bring plates then. It’s easy to do
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Tech Session in the Groj - Aug 5

Postby Loren » Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:51 pm

So, we ended up with Me, Steve, Ben, Andy, Mustard Dan, and Andy's friend. It was HOT! But, no rain. We stayed hydrated. Sugared up on cookies. Went out for some Mexican food. And got stuff done!

Springs on my Smart
Bushings on Dan's Evo
Steering Rack Bushings on Steve's Miata
Minor alignment (front toe) on Andy's Mustang (GT 5.0, yo)
Some Megasquirt troubleshooting/tuning/education on Andy's friend's Miata

Didn't do anything on Ben's car. He was going to change the air filter, but apparently, Lexus owners never change air filters, thus nobody stocks an air filter for a Lexus.

It was a good day hangin' out in the Groj!
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Tech Session in the Groj - Aug 5

Postby Native » Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:31 pm

It sure was a good day. Really nice to catch up with a few folks I hadn't seen in various durations of forever.
It was also good to knock something off the MIata list, as opposed to adding to it. :thumbwink:

And cookies. OMG.
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Tech Session in the Groj - Aug 5

Postby Loren » Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:52 pm

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Tech Session in the Groj - Aug 5

Postby CaptainSquirts » Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:42 pm

Was nice seeing some old faces. The bushings passed the autocross test. The cookies and pickles were full of swagger :chuckle:

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