Why don't you run events with the "other guys" ?

Jamie · Postby **Jamie** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:16 pm

We've talked about it with someone who's involved with PCA and BMWCCA...it's not beyond possibility. Just have to figure out a date and location good for whatever clubs are involved, and who's doing what -- as with any special event, logistics and operation are a little more complex.

deadmeat · Postby **deadmeat** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:22 pm

Uh, I didn't see Lazyness as an option, but if it pops up, put me down for that option.

I've been down to see the Gulf Coast AutoX club.

Anyone else who knows of them, or gone down there, know's why I am NOT allowed to run there.

I just like the atmosphere and the people at FAST. I mean, except for that Carl guy in the red Miata tha keeps hitting on me, things are pretty good!

But I vote for more of Loren in the Brit Roadster with the Golf beanie...

-meaty

Postby **Loren** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:31 pm

deadmeat wrote:But I vote for more of Loren in the Brit Roadster with the Golf beanie...

I take issue with your words, good sir. When I drive my fine Triumph automobile, I wear a gentleman's driving cap. I shudder at the implication that I would have anything to do with "golf"!

MusicalDeity · Postby **MusicalDeity** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:30 am

For us it would be difficult to regularly attend more than one event per month... there's just too much else going on (and many other things we'd like to make time for but already can't)

For me the reasons I prefer FAST are:

-Rules. We have them, but only what is needed. Some events require more than a stock car has to offer... so until I have my approved roll bar and Snell helmet... my stock Miata and DOT helmet are fine for me

-Location. The locations are convenient enough for the most part. As in, St. Pete and Lakeland are closer than Ft. Myers.

-The biggest one of all though... the people. I like that the group, as a whole, is made up of nice... down to earth people. No one judges others based on their cars or times (aside from friendly joking). There are plenty of people open to giving advice, ride alongs etc. It is a nice, friendly group... and that's what makes me come back. No one has ever made me feel like less of a driver because I'm consistantly slower... I still come out and have fun

The competition is friendly, not harsh... I like that. I don't know that I'd feel comfortable being both the chair of an event and the slowest time of the day if it weren't for the people that make up the group. *shrugs* Plus... the a-holes tend to not stick around as long since they don't make friends... lol.

So yeah, for my time... I'd rather spend it with people I like. I've enjoyed getting to know everyone over the last year or so I've been around, and I'm looking forward to more in the future!

MusicalDeity · Postby **MusicalDeity** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:36 am

Loren wrote:
Native wrote:And I totally agree with the discussion about lines and coursewalking. Next novice school I was gonna suggest a much larger emphasis on line and "reading" a course than we've done in the past...
Ah, but then you're getting too advanced for the novices. Novices generally need to work on car control and the "big picture" of how to drive a course.

What you're talking about is something more appropriate for an "advanced" school. Which is something we could do... but not on the same day.

That's also something that can be done on walk-throughs the day of. When I walk a course I like to try and do it with someone who is more experienced in reading the course, that way I can learn from it. Its also why I ask someone experienced to lead the walk-throughs on the events I chaired. The reason I asked Loren to lead it was not only because he designed the course, but because he has the experience to offer advice/info on driving that a newer person like myself cannot. Almost everyone out there can benefit from the knowledge of our more experienced drivers... so those walk-throughs aren't just for novices.

Agent · Postby **Agent** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:06 pm

I love you guys man... Yellow_Colorz_PDT_41

Christina · Postby **Christina** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:00 pm

Agent wrote:I love you guys man... Yellow_Colorz_PDT_41

LOL. ditto.. ditto to kim's post too. FAST rocks. 8)

Postby **Native** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:55 pm

FAST. True.

snookwheel · Postby **snookwheel** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:51 pm

Native wrote:FAST. True.

Can you say that before 12PM?

leftandright · Postby **leftandright** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:24 am

REPRESENT FAST!

35th State Championships at Sebring 11-12 Nov. Organised by Martin, SCCA type rules and organization. A full weekend - practice all day Sat. Run all day Sunday. A hundred gets you two days, a polo shirt, and lunch. At the same weekend is a CHIN and a Barber on the main track.

I see Howard is registered, and so am I. So... we are represented by one of the very fastest (Howard) and one of the very slowest (me!).
Howzabout some of you other pilots? Represent!

Agent · Postby **Agent** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:01 pm

what kind of course set up do they have?

snookwheel · Postby **snookwheel** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:48 pm

I signed up!

Jamie · Postby **Jamie** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:16 pm

Agent wrote:what kind of course set up do they have?

Per the annoucement, "The Autocross Championships will be held on the concrete paddock area along the back-straight between turns 16 and 17." That's basically the old east-west runway -- the track runs down one side, and the paddock area is the rest. So it's a runway course...you should have lots of experience!

Postby **Loren** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:31 pm

A runway course with a fence on one side and a concrete wall on the other.

Jamie · Postby **Jamie** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:35 pm

Loren wrote:A runway course with a fence on one side and a concrete wall on the other.

Details....

Postby **Loren** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:56 pm

Jamie wrote:
Loren wrote:A runway course with a fence on one side and a concrete wall on the other.
Details....

1,000 words for you, sir:
[img]http://invisiblesun.org/Temp/Sebring_Autox.jpg[/img]

snookwheel · Postby **snookwheel** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:02 pm

Here's an in car perspective of the area that will be used. Not mine, just one I found on You Tube. This video is from the June event:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK5KTTPP" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... re=related

Postby **Loren** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:37 pm

One-way course with a remote finish. Good solution for that site (or any other long, narrow site).

Jamie · Postby **Jamie** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:35 pm

Loren wrote:1,000 words for you, sir:

Still details -- those runways are much wider than Brooksville's. If the pavement blocks are the same size (the two airfields are the same vintage, so the construction technique's the same), there's 250 ft between the wall and the fence (looks about right proportionately, too). Put a 50 ft buffer zone on each side for safety, and you still have as much room as we do on Brooksville's 150' wide runway.

Postby **Loren** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:52 pm

That's why I posted a photo with a scale. Draw your own conclusions, I'm sure it's construction is exactly the same as Brooksville, it's just wider.

Why don't you run events with the "other guys" ?

Why don't you attend?

A worthy "Other Guys" event

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