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dan wrote:

JasonS wrote:How is this a question

Cause you've not done the duel!

More seriously, I think that the FAST guys mix it up with a special event ~ once a quarter; special ultimately meaning it gets away from traditional Ax runs. There are those who are definitely looking for the added seat time in classic events whereas some of us really enjoy the creative formats.

More enduros mean less of something else - be it traditional format classics or the other specials (duel, relay, school, gymkana, etc).

I like it


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My vote is two enduro. Two duels. Cut out a few classics if needed.

What is the duel format? I haven't attended one of those.

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jstocktpa wrote:What is the duel format? I haven't attended one of those.

Two drivers head-to-head on the same course, no clocks. They start opposite of each other, first one to finish the whole course and get back to their own start/finish wins!

Duel 2016

Dragged a video link out of the post event forum. That looks like a blast. A couple of those, a couple enduros, a couple classics, and points points points. Sounds like a good season to me.

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RedBRZ80 wrote:My vote is two enduro. Two duels. Cut out a few classics if needed.

And a gymmy at the dog track.

My favorite event is the Enduro, but I voted to keep it an annual affair. Think of it like the McRib, if you can buy it year round, it's not special. For a limited time only? I'll take two please.

BrilloHeadBen wrote:My favorite event is the Enduro, but I voted to keep it an annual affair. Think of it like the McRib, if you can buy it year round, it's not special. For a limited time only? I'll take two please.

Meta: registers for a double session.

BrilloHeadBen wrote:My favorite event is the Enduro, but I voted to keep it an annual affair. Think of it like the McRib, if you can buy it year round, it's not special. For a limited time only? I'll take two please.

+1 This is what I was pondering when Ben posted it. Would Christmas/Easter be special more than once a year? No. I agree with Ben. This also applies to the Duel. Special not often.

twistedwankel wrote:

BrilloHeadBen wrote:My favorite event is the Enduro, but I voted to keep it an annual affair. Think of it like the McRib, if you can buy it year round, it's not special. For a limited time only? I'll take two please.

+1 This is what I was pondering when Ben posted it. Would Christmas/Easter be special more than once a year? No. I agree with Ben. This also applies to the Duel. Special not often.

I relish any event that I can challenge you and your gobs of HP to my disadvantage. McRib anyone?

A gymkhana, much like the McRib, sounds good, until you bite into it and you realize it kinda sucks.
Also like the McRib, likely much better when drunk.

AScoda wrote:
Also like the McRib, likely much better when drunk.

Time for a visit to Tampabay GP go karts...

(In Brandon)

Not that y'all care, or need to worry about it much, but... difficulty of setting up and running FAST events from pain-in-the-ass to cake-walk:

Novice School - WOW, what a hassle
Duel - Really fun, but... yeah, it's a pain
Gymkhana - Not a huge pain, but it takes some thought
Endurocross - Gotta crack the whip on event day to keep things moving, but pretty easy overall
FAST Open - Flows pretty easily as long as there are enough people, we've got the system down
FAST Classic - Aaaaah

So, you're not likely to see the first three more than once in a year... if that. We try to do the Duel annually, but it's hard to justify because it often doesn't sell out. But, it's really fun, as many of you know very well, and we like it, so we do it. Gymkhana doesn't have a good following, so we might do one every few years. Novice school... aside from being the most difficult events to organize, when we're already selling out Open events, we don't need to bring in a bunch more noobs who want to become regulars. We accomplish much of the same function of a Novice school with the novice instruction we provide at an Open event, anyway.

Endurocross, we could do more than once per year. But, we really don't want to do it quarterly. As others have noted, to maintain its "special" status, it needs to come but once per year. If we do another "Endurocross" event, it won't be a carbon copy of the original. The true Endurocross (tm) will be no more than annual. But, maybe we'll do a lesser multi-lap format? Rather than 2 runs of 5 laps and 3-4 minute runs... we could do 3 runs of 3 laps and 90-second runs? Sort of like the Enduro, but not quite.

There are other fun Special Event ideas that we're itching to try, as well. Not to mention some that we've done rarely, and might want to do again. We'll always find ways to keep things fresh and intersting. For our sake, as well as yours!

Note that Steve and I didn't start this poll. We appreciate the feedback... but, the above should give you some insight as to where we're likely to head in the near future. We like our competitive FAST Open series. We like our Classic events. Those will, of course, continue to happen. But, we also like a little variety. And, folks vote with their wallets. (Endurocross has sold out for at least the past 3 years, 'nuff said) We know what people like.

We never ran the Kobayashi maru......

AScoda wrote: We never ran the Kobayashi maru......

It's an impossible course.

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Loren wrote: Gymkhana

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CaptainSquirts wrote:

Loren wrote: Gymkhana

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Look farther up in this thread, it's been discussed.

Loren wrote:

CaptainSquirts wrote:

Loren wrote: Gymkhana

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Look farther up in this thread, it's been discussed.

Jesus, it's like a hardcore drivers ed course.

So there won't be a weekly Monday Enduro with dinner dinner in Oldsmar?

This thread has become very entertaining!
I love youse guys - you crack me up.