I'll think about m4. not going to win either s5 or m4. If I can narrow the gap on either leader, it's progress.Loren wrote:I'm still on the fence. If the Mirage was woefully uncompetitive in S5, the decision would be easier. But, it's actually holding its own pretty well so far, and the setup is nowhere near optimized, and I'm still figuring out how it wants to be driven.
M4 needs some love, though.
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Lets see. S5 Miata + FM springs + Bilstein Sports = M4. I like it.
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+ 205 tiresjev61 wrote:Lets see. S5 Miata + FM springs + Bilstein Sports = M4. I like it.

Won't be as fast as an M3 Miata... but, it doesn't have to be.
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Could you define "slow cars" please? According to Ron's clock and a couple other club's clocks I've gotten my clock cleaned 1/2 the time by Soraya in her daily driver with a zillion miles on it. Both of my cars are now S1 rated garage queens. Damn. Wish I was S1 rated too. I am, however; garage queen 4 star rated tho'.Loren wrote: S4 and S5 are my babies. I want to see them thrive with people having fun in slow cars!

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure most over the counter "name" flashers that plug into your harness have a "return to stock" button/command before going to the dealer. Even my factory installed ECU's have a delete all codes command in both cars. In my RX8 I was taught how to delete all ECU memory by manipulating the ign key and stomping quickly many times on the brake enough times to make the oil needle flip me off once. Tada. The bad = the car defaults into zombie new car mode until it relearns how I normally drive it.mymomswagon wrote:convince my bride that flash tunes are safe under warranty and I will join the m4 hunt.
Your VW probably has unimaginable built in codes lurking in there from the last CEO

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Doug, there are fast drivers with slow cars, and slow drivers with fast cars. 

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Umm what's that now ? Someone answer the damn phone !twistedwankel wrote:And old drivers with no cars but great memories
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well, those party poopers at VW figured out a way to count how many times an ecu has been flashed. if the count doesn't match up with service records you get flagged and will have a hard time with any engine claim. piggy back devices may escape detection if removed from the car prior to service.twistedwankel wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure most over the counter "name" flashers that plug into your harness have a "return to stock" button/command before going to the dealer. Even my factory installed ECU's have a delete all codes command in both cars. In my RX8 I was taught how to delete all ECU memory by manipulating the ign key and stomping quickly many times on the brake enough times to make the oil needle flip me off once. Tada. The bad = the car defaults into zombie new car mode until it relearns how I normally drive it.mymomswagon wrote:convince my bride that flash tunes are safe under warranty and I will join the m4 hunt.
Your VW probably has unimaginable built in codes lurking in there from the last CEO [emoji38]
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Ben will sell you the FASTiva. No warranty to violate. Perfect for M4.
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I have broached that subject but we are miles apartLoren wrote:Ben will sell you the FASTiva. No warranty to violate. Perfect for M4.

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hmm I miss m4, I need to come out again, but it will be in m3 due to the diff on the new transmission...and if I can figure out what is wrong with it post engine swap/build/timing jump due to a timing cover bolt backing out. I guess if I can find a set of konis (s on another car I can try m4 on the beater 00 civic
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like a moth drawn to a flame, now in M4
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mymomswagon wrote:like a moth drawn to a flame, now in M4

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Push Harder - Drive as close to the limit of your tires as possible.
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ever since my first FAST event, I've informally benched my times to "that Fit". first event was "a Fit beat me by 4 seconds. What the ?????".
Now I can formally track my progress
Now I can formally track my progress

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Me, too.mymomswagon wrote:like a moth drawn to a flame, now in M4
When is there ever one moth?
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I'd join you but my tires are too wide and I already bought my next set so too late to downsize now. I have to keep chipping away at the damn Miatas in S4 

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One more to the flame. Sara is joining the circle. Tires ordered. Alignment to follow.Native wrote:Me, too.mymomswagon wrote:like a moth drawn to a flame, now in M4
When is there ever one moth?
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