Da Groj

That is indeed a 1969 AMX. I'm trying to convince the owner to bring it, but no luck yet.

Cleaning will happen Friday night as I will doubtlessly accumulate more junk over the week.

Good morning! Due to UPS and my auto shop exceeding expectations, I need to be bumped from S0 to M0. I changed it in MotorsportReg but it doesn't seem to be refreshing on the roster. Please let me know if it's fixed or if I need to edit it somewhere else. Thanks in advance.

Rowen Suarez

fsuvball wrote:I need to be bumped from S0 to M0.

Done.

It's my first time with FAST and I had a couple questions for you guys. I'm planning to trailer my car up from Bradenton since its a fresh build by a dubious mechanic (myself). 50-50 chance it survives the afternoon!
Will there be room to park the trailer or should I unload nearby and drive in? Also I have a trunk mounted battery, well secured but the post are exposed and not insulated. Is that a problem? If I missed these questions in the supps its my bad, you guys seem to have a great system to explain your events.

Ps. Before you judge my weakness for bringing a trailer, here's a pic of my car 1 year ago

There's plenty of room for trailers and you certainly won't be the only one. As for the battery, as long as it's securely in place then it's alright.

I've seen a bunch of talk on forums about tire pressure, would it be worth it to bring a compressor that has a tank? Also, I assume there will be restrooms on site?

As a beginner, bringing a compressor and/or air tank is probably overkill. Just put 42 psi in your tires and be happy. You can bleed them down a little from there if need be.

Portapotty on-site.

Hmmm, looking at the course map there doesn't seem to be anything "tricky" about the turnaround, most unusual.

jbrannon7 wrote:Hmmm, looking at the course map there doesn't seem to be anything "tricky" about the turnaround, most unusual.

Joe,

Look again. Oh.....I had the printout upsidedown. hahahahaha There was an "S" for sucks I thought.

We both know that there is no way those cones will be as drawn. I'm starting to dislike "early" course maps that fit into an APP on drivers anonymous websites. It keeps me up at night thinking I'm missing something.

Drew will drive his stang around a semblance of this course and they will outline his fluid leaks and tire chirps.

If you tested the course in your Bimmer Drew would finish 10th. Old Stangs never die they just have weird handling patterns like space travel using pyramids. The course map is a very elongated ET.

Such is life. Some day when I am King things will change. Being only a Mayor has it's limits.

Doug

kirkendsley wrote:I've seen a bunch of talk on forums about tire pressure....

Loren wrote: Just put 42 psi in your tires and be happy.

If it's a stock suspension, put 42-45 psi in the front tires only; leave the back at about 30. Makes the car rotate wonderfully when you lift off the throttle.

If you don't want to drive up on that setup, I'll have both a tank and a compressor handy.

Also, if you look at the FAST website, you'll find an entire section of Novice Information.

Jamie wrote:

kirkendsley wrote:I've seen a bunch of talk on forums about tire pressure....

Loren wrote: Just put 42 psi in your tires and be happy.

If it's a stock suspension, put 42-45 psi in the front tires only; leave the back at about 30. Makes the car rotate wonderfully when you lift off the throttle.

If you don't want to drive up on that setup, I'll have both a tank and a compressor handy.

Ditto what Jamie said. I have a small compressor (no tank) that you are welcomed to borrow. Anything that you might forget someone is likely to have on site and FAST members are a neighborly sort, in spite of all the trash talking.

FF.

PS - is it Saturday yet?

I have tread patterns again - I am ready.

Bring on the Saturday!

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Loren wrote:As a beginner, bringing a compressor and/or air tank is probably overkill. Just put 42 psi in your tires and be happy. You can bleed them down a little from there if need be

I'll probably bring/borrow a small compressor then. It's an hour long drive and I'm wary of driving that far with high pressure.

kirkendsley wrote:

Loren wrote:As a beginner, bringing a compressor and/or air tank is probably overkill. Just put 42 psi in your tires and be happy. You can bleed them down a little from there if need be

I'll probably bring/borrow a small compressor then. It's an hour long drive and I'm wary of driving that far with high pressure.

Most tires are rated at MAX 51psi and driving on them on the way there will let you feel the quick steering provided with stiff responsive front tires. The idea of having higher pressure is to keep your street tires from rolling over on hard corners is all and "respond". Your FWD car will ultimately benefit from higher rear pressures than front once you get the hang of not just getting pulled around the corners.

Jamie has a couple hundred thousand miles on an old stock FWD Honda Prelude and raced the crap out of it. He is your spiritual guide to autocrossing or maintaining a Prelude with no issues. He can also drive the pants off a Miata with a zillion miles. Not to worry. On your first outing you won't begin to strain your car or it's tires regardless of your tire pressures. Like all of us you will merely have fun.

Doug

twistedwankel wrote:

kirkendsley wrote:

Loren wrote:As a beginner, bringing a compressor and/or air tank is probably overkill. Just put 42 psi in your tires and be happy. You can bleed them down a little from there if need be

I'll probably bring/borrow a small compressor then. It's an hour long drive and I'm wary of driving that far with high pressure.

Most tires are rated at MAX 51psi and driving on them on the way there will let you feel the quick steering provided with stiff responsive front tires. The idea of having higher pressure is to keep your street tires from rolling over on hard corners is all and "respond". Your FWD car will ultimately benefit from higher rear pressures than front once you get the hang of not just getting pulled around the corners.

Jamie has a couple hundred thousand miles on an old stock FWD Honda Prelude and raced the crap out of it. He is your spiritual guide to autocrossing or maintaining a Prelude with no issues. He can also drive the pants off a Miata with a zillion miles. Not to worry. On your first outing you won't begin to strain your car or it's tires regardless of your tire pressures. Like all of us you will merely have fun.

Doug

Ditto on the Jamie endorsement. I AX my DD that is also a Honda FWD and it sees about 16-18 k miles a year of mixed highway, city and autocross driving. Have gotten great advice over the last 2 years. Plenty of people to talk to at FAST who negate the need to reinvent the wheel. Once you have 3 events under your belt, try making it to a FAST Classic: they have a slightly slower pacer in that there is a scheduled lunch break and that is a great time to go talk to guys who are running (or have run) something close to what you have. Alternatively, a regular open at other than the airport site. Due to FAA regulations there is a limit to how many people can be on site at once so the morning bunch *has* to leave promptly by around noon so the afternoon group can get in (unless you register for both sessions). Sadly, I'll be working the 30th so can't make the next Classic

FF

PS - Jamie's car is easy to identify... a dark greenish Miata with a big, round 31 on it... he usually has a grin on his face as soon as you make eye contact, or he can be found tossing clever one-liner commentary on the day's events

Thanks for the tips, this is my first event as well, can't wait till Saturday.


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twistedwankel wrote:Your FWD car will ultimately benefit from higher rear pressures than front once you get the hang of not just getting pulled around the corners.

Oddly enough, not Preludes. Neither one of mine responded well to high rear pressures -- lots of testing led me to 50F/25R. I wouldn't recommend quite that difference to a beginner, though...that mix let the rear end step out at a thought, and it's not terribly stable on the highway! I tried out lesser hi/low differentials on a number of 4th and 5th gen Preludes, and the effect is very tunable.

friskyflea wrote:Jamie's car is easy to identify... a dark greenish Miata....

Yeah, that one...except it's black....

See, this is why I simply said put 42 psi in the tires. First event. None of this matters. Work out 'optimal' after you figure out how to simply navigate a course. Set it, forget it, drive.

friskyflea wrote:Jamie's car is easy to identify... a dark greenish Miata....

Yeah, that one...except it's black.... [/quote]


Oh, you mean that greenish tinge I perceive might be *mold?*

I *swear* it looks like a very dark forest/evergreen to me, but maybe it's my wishful thinking, b/c that's a fav color of mine.

As for the FWD F/B pressure discussion, I run a 2-4 psi higher in front than rear difference, but that so depends on what tire, current state of said rubber (I find I have to drop them as they approach wear-bar stage), track surface type and ambient temperature. Tire pressure is kinda like bartending: picking just the right combination for the conditions at hand can be a guesstimated experiment

FF