March 2-day event planning for SPC

Postby **Native** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:18 pm

Hey. We need a chair for February's event. Who wants it?

As for March, we need a plan and a chair/co-chairs. We have a cancellation deadline at B'ville if we're not gonna use the two days, so it's time for someone to start working on whatever this is gonna be.

edit 1/13 - this event is in St. Pete - oops.

Agent · Postby **Agent** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:31 am

As I said before at the event, I will chair the event, but it would probably be better if I had a co chair since it would be my first time.

If I chair it, there would be an event on Sunday, and some sort of fun day on Saturday (negotiable, but I like the idea of an Endurocross like there was last year).

Postby **Loren** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:49 am

Carl, if you're going to do an Enduro, I'd suggest running the regular event on Saturday. That way you can use the same (or almost same) course on Sunday... it will be set up, tested and ready to GO first thing Sunday morning.

Time is the most critical factor of an Endurocross. (ask Ron... in fact, ask Ron to co-chair! 8) ) The more time you can free up, the more time everyone gets to "endure".

Agent · Postby **Agent** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:15 pm

Well, we first need to see who is going to be the chair I guess. The reason I suggested Sunday for the event was that the last few events had been on Saturday's, and I thought it would be fair to have this one on a Sunday.

Postby **Native** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:47 pm

Agent on 1/11 at 10:30 am wrote:I will chair the event...

Agent on 1/11 at 10:15 pm wrote:we first need to see who is going to be the chair I guess

Agent · Postby **Agent** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:56 pm

Well, you didn't confirm it! You're freakin me out... Hatin' on the n00b and so forth. I'm in if you don't see a problem with it.

Postby **Native** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:10 pm

Oh, it's confirmed, NOOB!! 8)

check on the March dates here

Like you said, though, and Loren suggested - get a good co-chair for whatever you choose to do. Just ask the person you think has the experience/skilz/ability to help you get it right. NO pressure.

Seriously, just ask for a volunteer or hit up someone specifically - I'm sure someone will be happy to help you through it, whatever "it" may turn out to be.

Agent · Postby **Agent** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:13 pm

Awesome... So, volunteers for co chair in March?

Also, I would be more than happy to hear all of the thoughts as to what should be done with the extra day. I had just an awesome time at the last endurocross, but I'm sure that there could be a whole slew of other things that would be just as fun to do. Let's hear some ideas and get planning!

Postby **Native** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:16 pm

ahh, spoken like a true event chair 8)

c'mon all you folks out there in autocross land - help the newb out!

Anonymous · Postby **Anonymous** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:21 pm

People probably won't like this cause it's a little hardcore. But I have always wanted to do it.

2 day event. Different courses each day. Add your best times from each day to make a combined time for the final results. This is how national level events are run, but they only get 3 runs per day.

Just an idea, I may have more later. And I am not interested in co-chairing at this time.

Charles · Postby **Charles** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:24 pm

Consistency would pay off..... I like it....... don't be skurred

Anonymous · Postby **Anonymous** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:31 pm

Endurocross was fun, but it was a lot of work. I remember 2+ hour work sessions. You are basically working all day, no breaks.

And for me, the only real benefit was using the entire width of the runway.

How about a one way autocross? Get 2000 ft of cable. Use entire width of runway.

Charles · Postby **Charles** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:36 pm

Jeremy wrote:Get 2000 ft of cable. Use entire width of runway.

Kenny can confirm but I think we are covered there.......

Dave-ROR · Postby **Dave-ROR** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:19 pm

Jeremy wrote:Endurocross was fun, but it was a lot of work. I remember 2+ hour work sessions. You are basically working all day, no breaks.

And for me, the only real benefit was using the entire width of the runway.

How about a one way autocross? Get 2000 ft of cable. Use entire width of runway.

I agree on the work issue. If you weren't driving, then you were working. I don't mind that in a 2 run group autocross, but in this case you were literally driving for 3? or 4? minutes for one run, then running to your work assignment so another driver could come in to run, all day long...

I understand that was required for the event to work, and an endurocross is still different and fun enough to do, but eh, I'd have to be driving something else

Postby **Loren** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:46 pm

I think a one-way course would be cool, but it brings with it the problem of getting everyone back to the start line again.

One solution that I like would be to design a course that can easily be run in both directions. Run the entire grid through one run (so that they're all at the other end), then reverse the timer cables and send them all back through to the other end. Do that 3 times for 6 runs (effectively on two different courses). We should be able to maintain the usual 25-30 second start interval doing it that way no matter how long the course is, so it wouldn't add any time.

That would be different and fun.

Postby **Native** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:33 pm

Jeremy wrote:2 day event. Different courses each day. Add your best times from each day to make a combined time for the final results. This is how national level events are run, but they only get 3 runs per day.

I like this idea a lot. Except for the 3 runs part. We did a limited entry event in November, it seems awful soon to do another one, such as an Endurocross might require.

Loren wrote:One solution that I like would be to design a course that can easily be run in both directions. Run the entire grid through one run (so that they're all at the other end), then reverse the timer cables and send them all back through to the other end. Do that 3 times for 6 runs (effectively on two different courses). We should be able to maintain the usual 25-30 second start interval doing it that way no matter how long the course is, so it wouldn't add any time.

I like this idea, too. Trying to essentially run two courses at the same time would be fun and challenging.

I have no ideas of my own

(and I might not even be able to make it anyway)

February needs an event chair.

Anonymous · Postby **Anonymous** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:36 pm

That would be awesome. SCCA has done it twice (the one way course). You just need really good communication between the grid people at either end and T&S.

One time we had a slacker at one end and it kinda screwed things up. Hope he doesn't read this.

Postby **Native** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:38 pm

I hope y'all aren't gonna be too mad at me, and I'll only take 99% of the blame because the correct information has been posted previously elsewhere, but...

The March two day event is in St. Pete, not Brooksville. We have 2 days in Brooksville in October.

At SPC we can still do a two-day autocross on different courses, or run it backward, for a cumulative score...

I'm sorry. I suck.

Charles · Postby **Charles** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:51 pm

Native wrote:
I'm sorry. I suck.

Off with his head!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess we can use these ideas for October...... no clue what to do with the bumpy postage stamp @ SPJC for 2 days......

Postby **Loren** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:54 pm

Charles wrote:Off with his head!!!!!!!!!!!

Nobody takes Steve's head unless they're ready to take his job!

(and a thankless job, it is)

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