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Genny, Genny, who can I turn to?

Postby Loren » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:28 am

Brian, if you're thinking small car muffler, try a salvage yard. Get something off of a small Honda or Hyundai or something for probably under $20. Or... just ask around, maybe somebody has a stock exhaust in their garage they'd donate? We have enough people around here who can weld... we could make it happen.
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Re: OctoberFEST FAST 14th is History

Postby Solar » Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:02 am

Loren wrote:Brian, if you're thinking small car muffler, try a salvage yard. Get something off of a small Honda or Hyundai or something for probably under $20. Or... just ask around, maybe somebody has a stock exhaust in their garage they'd donate? We have enough people around here who can weld... we could make it happen.
This subject might need to be moved to another thread. Anyhow, I looked at the manifold on the genny, an those bolts haven't moved in 30 years. The biggest problem is to get those bolts removed without snapping them, so they need to be heated up, and pray they don't break inside the block, if they do it's new genny time. Then we need to use the existing manifold and cut it flush and weld a curved pipe onto that. A muffler shop could fab a header pipe really easily that could attached to a muffler. Then it's a pretty easy thing from there. My thought is that we need to have a exhaust muffler we can remove and install per event because it might be to cumbersome to move the genny in and out of the trailer. While a used muffler would work, I know we could get a new small engine muffler for around $30. I'm thinking if we can keep the budget under $60, we would have a much quieter genny. Then I'm thinking, yeah, when the genny runs out of gas it's pretty quiet, but that's when we broke for lunch. Once cars are running and idling on grid, I don't think it's even a issue. And we have plenty of extension cord to, so we could just move it farther away.
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Re: OctoberFEST FAST 14th is History

Postby Loren » Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:48 am

Well, honestly, when I made the suggestion, I was thinking "simple bolt-on quieter muffler". Something like This.
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Re: OctoberFEST FAST 14th is History

Postby Solar » Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:13 am

Loren wrote:Well, honestly, when I made the suggestion, I was thinking "simple bolt-on quieter muffler". Something like This.
Yup, that's what I was talking about,
solar wrote: I know we could get a new small engine muffler for around $30
those mufflers really don't quiet down the engine much, but it's better than what we have now. We can go that way if you want.
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Re: OctoberFEST FAST 14th is History

Postby Loren » Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:25 am

As you mentioned, the old one is probably 30 years old. Just an new "standard" muffler would probably be quieter. A new "super lo-tone" muffler should be notably quieter.

I think it's worth spending $30 on. Are we due for annual generator maintenance?
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Re: OctoberFEST FAST 14th is History

Postby Solar » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:56 am

Loren wrote:
I think it's worth spending $30 on. Are we due for annual generator maintenance?
It could probably use a oil change, just replaced the plug not long ago. I can order the muffler, and take the genny home with me from SPC next month.
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Re: OctoberFEST FAST 14th is History

Postby Loren » Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:28 am

Sweet! Thanks, Brian.

Have a look at the fuel hose while you're at it. I don't remember if it was our generator or someone else's somewhere... but I remember a fuel hose giving up on a generator somewhere recently. If that sucker's old, go ahead and replace it.
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Re: OctoberFEST FAST 14th is History

Postby twistedwankel » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:45 am

Solar wrote:
Loren wrote:
I think it's worth spending $30 on. Are we due for annual generator maintenance?
It could probably use a oil change, just replaced the plug not long ago. I can order the muffler, and take the genny home with me from SPC next month.
How many watts is that generator? I'm thinking :headscratch:
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Re: OctoberFEST FAST 14th is History

Postby Solar » Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:50 pm

The carb sits directly on top of the fuel tank, no fuel line. I fixed a fuel leak on the carb a year ago or so, one of the universal plugs was leaking, maybe that's what you were thinking.

I think the genny is around 3000 watts.
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Re: OctoberFEST FAST 14th is History

Postby twistedwankel » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:14 pm

Solar wrote:The carb sits directly on top of the fuel tank, no fuel line. I fixed a fuel leak on the carb a year ago or so, one of the universal plugs was leaking, maybe that's what you were thinking.

I think the genny is around 3000 watts.
I wonder if one could live with 1800watts? Or if one needs 5000 of them?
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Re: OctoberFEST FAST 14th is History

Postby Loren » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:22 pm

We probably need well under 1000 watts. What are you hinting at?
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Re: OctoberFEST FAST 14th is History

Postby snookwheel » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:25 pm

<1000 will likely not run the air compressor.

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Re: OctoberFEST FAST 14th is History

Postby twistedwankel » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:30 pm

snookwheel wrote:<1000 will likely not run the air compressor.

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What air compressor? 1800 watts should run over a 2HP motor if it can make it spin. 750watt/hp? I used to know this stuff. Damn....where are my car keys?
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Postby snookwheel » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:48 pm

It is the start up and cycling that will need over 1,000 watts. Once it's running, not a problem, but the cycling will be an issue. Just electronics? Probably be fine.


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Re: Genny, Genny, who can I turn to?

Postby Loren » Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:02 pm

We used to have a compressor. It very rarely got used and we got tired of loading and unloading it... I don't remember where it ended up.

For now, it's just timing equipment and PA.

Still don't know where Doug is going with this.
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Re: Genny, Genny, who can I turn to?

Postby twistedwankel » Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:40 pm

Loren wrote: Still don't know where Doug is going with this.
Once upon a time.

Seven years ago in 2005 when I moved us to FL from the North country I was convinced that Hurricanes were a semi-monthly occurance from May to Oct. and I goeth forth to Pep Boys in CT and bought a 5000watt 120/220 generator in addition to my personal friend a 1979-80 Yamaha 1800 watt AC/DC 1800 watt Unit which is chrome and way cool. I reconditioned the cool looking blue Yamaha two years ago with new air filter, etc. It might have 40 hours on it in the last 33 years? Last time I ran it was 2 years ago. The PepBoys 5000watt generator has 1 hour on it and is a virgin. I think it's red but it's under it's personal cover? So I don't remember. It is cool.

Still waiting for the hurricane to end all hurricanes now that I "get" living in FL.

So the question is??? Do you need a 5000watt new generator or not? Since I'm kind of fond of my "antique" 1800 collectible Yamaha I'm leaning towards giving the modern Pepboys to a club that has provided a great deal of enjoyment to myself. If the 1800 will suffice it is very quiet and I know it would find a good home with FAST.

When Scott mentioned an air compressor I thought he was donating and the 5000 was a no brainer.

So you have "options". Brian can fix the oldie on the cheap or you have options.

How much power do you want? I will give you the power you need if you need it because I'm the:

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Re: Genny, Genny, who can I turn to?

Postby Loren » Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:50 pm

Do we "need" 5kw? Probably not. Would a newer generator be nice? Sure!

Could you maybe bring it to the next Brooksville event and let us give it a test run? The only possible downsides I can think of would be if it's a lot bigger than our trusty crusty Craftsman, a lot louder, or consumes a bunch more fuel. I don't expect it would have any of those issues.
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Postby twistedwankel » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:27 pm

Hmmm. I think it might fit in the RX8? In the passenger seat?
I guess I'll have to fire it up again I can't even remember the color? Red? Yellow? Chinese? Yes it certainly is Chinese as it came from PepBobs. That one pep boy looks Asian to me. Isn't Yamaha Asian too? Was it 5000 or 6000? Will be fun to try and remember when I look under the sheets.

I don't remember it being loud. Fuel is directly proportionate with load. 8 hours easy on a tank. Remember the truck driver test of being able to back out with a full load? Mario remembers. Mario still late turns on corners.

Yeah. I'll get it out there in December. You just don't believe I own a virgin anything...hahahahaha.

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Re: Genny, Genny, who can I turn to?

Postby buddy bodean » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:40 am

Doug, I will probably be towing the trailer to the next Brooksville event. I am sure I could swing by Dougopolous, or meet you somewhere in NPR, if you want the genny picked up.
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Re: Genny, Genny, who can I turn to?

Postby twistedwankel » Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:45 am

buddy bodean wrote:Doug, I will probably be towing the trailer to the next Brooksville event. I am sure I could swing by Dougopolous, or meet you somewhere in NPR, if you want the genny picked up.
Thanks Ed. You're always welcome at Dougopolous. I'm a couple miles East of Rt 19 on Deltona Blvd in Spring Hill. We'll work it out when the time comes. Or I could even meet you at the airport and transport it in the Crown Vic. So long as it gets locked up overnite is all.

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